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I didn't quote you simply because it would start getting really realllly long. I also seem to be missing a paragraph where I was talking about the M16 length and the M4 and length in general blablabla. But no biggy. I understand the designations and yes technically they are all "ARs" but people in the military don't call them that which is why I'm probably being overly sensitive. Maybe LE is different(you sound like you're in LEO). But here's what I'm getting at. He's buying a civvy version under NJ laws. He's stuck with using a fixed stock and no selectable fire which is a huge difference to what LE/MIL use. We simply can't compare the two we can only look at what he CAN buy which is going to have a fixed stock. If I'm in a mout setting I want a shorter weapon. I know many many other guys who feel the same way. It's just easier to come around a corner and handle in general. Is this personal preference? Yeah, but its one I've heard over and over for many years. There is nothing wrong with an AR/M16/M4 whatever you want to call it but the version he is buying unfortunately for me has limitations under the NJ laws. If you must know I prefer a replica "Blade" katana and a bow and arrow for home defense. But seriously I think I would grab for my pistol and/or shotgun first. I don't know, maybe muscle memory would force me I to grabbing my AR and then I'd just be a giant hypocrite (won't be the first time). But good choice on the M&P they ate certainly fun! Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

First, no military teams use an "AR." They would use an M16/M4. Sure we could say I'm splitting hairs but since we all scream holier than thou at the anti's for messing up the terms I'm going to hold you to the same standard. The most common weapon used in today's military is the M4 however an AR is NOT an M4. No, it's not the same so please don't say it is. Combat ranges under 200 yards(which is highly common in Iraq for example) have smaller impact on terminal effects. Greater than 200? Sure the longer barrel is "better(and this is HIGHLY debateable)" but I'll say it again. Most urban combat is WELL under 200 yards. Simply put those few inches on a gun(if I recall it's 1.5 total? maybe 2"?) in an urban setting do make a difference and since other weapons in the toolkit are can be used for tossing lead over a longer range the shorter length works perfectly fine. That's why we have those DMR guys. And besides, he's not even able to buy a shortened version with a collapsible stock so it's not the same thing as what the teams are currently using. To act like an AR is the best home defense weapon he can buy is bit over the top. I know we have tons of AR fanboys on here but here's some food for thought. http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/ http://www.chuckhawks.com/ar_disgrace.htm http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/replacing-the-m16-five-lethal-candidates/6/ Just want to shoot some paper? I still agree with Vlad, build it and learn it so you become comfortable with the weapon system.

Agree with Vlad. I like to buy cheaper entry points and then upgrade them so I learn the weapons platform. But...an AR for home defense? Little long to bring up quick and around corners just an FYI. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

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This. So if you're bat-shit insane and have been treated for it, etc etc etc.

This. The original post was clearly geared towards the assumption that they would be looking for other things. E.g. guns. They really could care less about your little collection when looking for a terrorist lol. Loosen the tinfoil.

Same. Never had an issue there at all. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Been through this training and even after it I never felt prepared for whipping out a Ka-Bar and defending myself with it. As others have said, the only way to really become proficient in something like that is to train with it ALL the time. It's a martial art and not something you can learn home through a book, DVD etc. Remember Daniel-son learning karate out the book? Johnny set him straight fast lol.

Good luck finding ammo. I have the same one now going on a month, haven't shot it yet.

I have the M&P 40. To be honest the VTAC and pro's are not worth it. You can get a M&P 40 for under $500 with a few mags. Apex trigger job is about $85. Both VTAC and pro start at $700+ if I recall. Yes there are several M&P9s that are fine in NJ.

Yeah I agree. A tax and spend liberal at best and even that is being generous. However I don't think he signs every bill, it would essentially ruin any chances of the White House as he will command little to no conservative/right/repub whatever vote.

Ok that's great and all, we heard you the first time. Why are you soooooo convinced?

I've seen quite a few Spydercos fall apart. Again though I used my knives under military conditions. Home use is not the same as a military training OP on top of a mountain in -20F weather or in the middle of a dessert. We use them to pry things apart, bash stuff, cut paracord, etc. And we use them quite a bit. We basically beat the hell out of our knives. I personally had a Spyderco have the screws fall out of the handle lol. Sure it's no a big deal, replace the screws etc but when you're in the middle of nowhere and your local big box store isn't down the road it's a pain in the ass. To this day I still have my SOG tanto as well as my Kershan(Leek?) and the SOG's finish is pretty much destroyed but the blade is in great condition and still cuts. I'm actually shocked the spring assisted function still works without a hitch.

Its not the most common thing but its been done every now and then. I mean you have to remember Marines leave boot camp hitting targets at 500 through iron sights Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

I'll send a pm when I'm home from Hooters. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

300-600 yards is the typical engagement however even ACOGS on M16s have been hitting people at 1k out. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

I'm confused. Are you looking for an actual career or do you want to just feel like a bad ass? Its an honest question and I can't really give an answer till I know. BTW I'm ex military and ex armed security so I can give you a ton of insight once I know exactly what you're looking for Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Wish I saw this sooner. I have a different perspective than most(not all) because I extensively used my knives in various military operations, training etc under different climates, conditions and functions. For the money Spyderco is fairly decent and if you're just cutting through boxes the UPS guy is bringing in from Amazon you should be fine. If you want something that is a little bit higher quality that will last through anything thrown at it I would suggest a Kershaw or a SOG. SOG is a bit tricky though because some of their lower end models have cheap finishes and parts, especially the spring assisted knives. Kershaw is decent quality throughout the entire product line. This being said when you cross that $100 barrier SOG starts to pull away in terms of quality and materials used imo. It just depends what you're using it for.

Uhm kicking our asses is a bit much but the fact still remains small arms fire and IEDS can be very effective. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

I would sue IF I knew the gun manufacturer knew about the issue and its severity and said screw it OR it directly caused an injury to myself or my family. My mother was on a medication for two years when the pharmacy company knew it was linked to cancer. Second year she is diagnosed with cancer when my family has absolutely 0 history. Has now been through 4 diagnosed cancers, doesn't smoke or drink, drug was pulled after huge lawsuits from a massive number of users etc etc. Its not cool when companies use customers as guinea pigs but my perspective is admittedly biased. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

No and no. I basically take it randomly in a blue moon. E.g. just recently I was studying for the CFA exam, so I needed to refill. I probably refill.... once every 2-3 years? I don't NEED it, unless I'm studying for standardized tests. Sorry for delay, was on vacation for 2 weeks and the hurricane.

Won't matter to be honest. I'm not dependent on the medication as I've gone sometimes 2-4 years without a prescription. This is what makes question 26 and the form a pita.

Yeah that one I'm pretty good on. Just question 26 and the consent form now. Just seems a bit insane that I'm going to have to get signatures for every Dr. that has prescribed me Adderall over the past 18 years. BTW, I appreciate the help everyone, I would have surely jacked this up by now.

That's kind of what I thought. Yup, I don't even take it on a normal basis to be honest, I take it while I'm studying for MBA/CFA nonsense. Am I literally going toned the entire list of doctors that have prescribed me Adderall over my entire lifetime as well as signatures? Or is there some sort of date cutoff? I'm looking at this consent for mental health records search and good god. I was diagnosed when I was 14? I'm 32 now.. That's quite a few doctors. Ahhh figures I would have to get fingerprinted. Anything to make the process as hard as possible. My buddy down in Cherry Hill waited I believe 9 months for the entire process? Insane. Hopefully I get this job down in Delaware so I can have my freedom again. Yup, Adderall is definitely a controlled substance. I just did some research based on what Pizza Bob said and I could answer "No" to question 25 as, I'm not dependent. Interesting how they blur the lines on ultimately the same thing between dependence and abuse. Thanks, can't wait to actually get out of the NJ law section lol :/ Already have a few new toys picked out for when this goes through.

Hey guys, Just moved back to New Jersey and I started filling out the application and I just want to make sure I don't completely jack this thing up: Question 25) Are you dependent upon the use of a narcotic(s) or other controlled dangerous substance(s)? I take Adderall for ADHD, I have no history of mental illness, being in a ward, or any other loony bin stuff. Now, I can split hairs and say it's not a dangerous substance but I'm sure that isn't going to fly. So my question is, how much is this going to screw me? Also, to find every doctor that has prescribed me ADHD medication over the years? Really? My second question is the following: The fingerprint stuff. I had a full background check(I'm assuming?) when I bought my first handgun in PA. The front paperwork for my municipality states the following: "Note: If you had a full background check for Firearms ID Card or Permits to Purchase within the last 5years, no fingerprinting is required blablablal" I'm assuming this is irrelevant? I have literally nothing to hide, I just have heard nightmares about this process and want to make sure my i's are dotted and t's are crossed because I'm not trying to give them any reason to NOT give me this thing.