January 22, 201313 yr DARPA has issued a contract for a new sniper scope which allegedly lets ordinary riflemen make 1 mile shots. "This rail mounted system incorporates a laser rangefinder that measures the speed of downfield crosswinds, distance to the target, atmospheric conditions, and other variables. It then calculates any necessary corrections and displays ballistic aim point offsets in the rifle's scope. Shooters simply need to line up their sights with what the system is displaying and boom: head shot." More info here: http://gizmodo.com/5976621/darpas-super-sniper-scope-is-the-worlds-deadliest-range+finder?tag=monster-machines Wonder how long it is until they hit the civilian market...
January 22, 201313 yr I'm betting it'll cost more than most rifles. Im betting itll cost more than most cars
January 22, 201313 yr I'm betting it'll cost more than most rifles. That may and will likely be the case. Not to say whatever you bolt that thing on to will be cheap either. You can always say it's an investment like a Prius or a reloading press. Saves money by sending less lead down range and eco-friendly with less pollutants sent into the air. Hey, I'm trying to save the Ozone. All in all, that does sound cool. I wonder if the wind is constantly varying, it'll affect the compensation in real time. Even though it's capable of auto-calculating mile shots, it probably won't be used at that range all the time. What's the min engagement distance for mil snipers? 600+?
January 22, 201313 yr 300-600 yards is the typical engagement however even ACOGS on M16s have been hitting people at 1k out. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
January 22, 201313 yr 300-600 yards is the typical engagement however even ACOGS on M16s have been hitting people at 1k out. Not to say I'm capable at that distance, but really? I remember reading something on why the PSG1 was never adopted by mil, other than the insane sticker price, because max range of the permanently mounted scope was at the beginning engagement distance for mil. It was fine for LEO as their distance is much shorter thus have been adopted by LEO if they can afford to.
January 22, 201313 yr Its not the most common thing but its been done every now and then. I mean you have to remember Marines leave boot camp hitting targets at 500 through iron sights Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
January 23, 201313 yr My two precision rifle scopes where 3k and 3.5k respectively. There are some Henny scopes in the 5 to 7k range. Whatever they are talking about I would place an educated guess of conservatively 50k.
January 23, 201313 yr My two precision rifle scopes where 3k and 3.5k respectively. There are some Henny scopes in the 5 to 7k range. Whatever they are talking about I would place an educated guess of conservatively 50k. Jeez, I can barely imagine paying that much for a gun, let alone a scope. Are those things made out of platinum and gem encrusted?
January 23, 201313 yr http://www.eurooptic.com/carl-zeiss-optronics-hensoldt-zf-6-24x72-sam.aspx My guess is that whatever they are developing is along these lines with the incorporation of: http://optics.org/news/2/7/2
January 23, 201313 yr http://www.eurooptic...-24x72-sam.aspx My guess is that whatever they are developing is along these lines with the incorporation of: http://optics.org/news/2/7/2 12k FOR A SCOPE? Jesus! That thing better come with unlimited sex!
January 23, 201313 yr I have this scope and frankly, it is outstanding! http://www.eurooptic.com/carl-zeiss-optronics-hensoldt-zf-4-16x56-mildot-front-focal-riflescope.aspx
January 23, 201313 yr 12k FOR A SCOPE? Jesus! That thing better come with unlimited sex! REAL long-range shooting is is much art as science..this thing is supposed to take the Art out of it and make it pure Science.
January 23, 201313 yr REAL long-range shooting is is much art as science..this thing is supposed to take the Art out of it and make it pure Science. Never gonna happen. Doesn't matter how good the gun/optics are, if you can't control breathing and trigger squeeze you won't hit the side of a barn at 1750 yards. Like you said, that kind of art (skill) can't be bought.
January 24, 201313 yr Doesn't seem to far fetched for a device like this to have a linkage to actuate a fire control though...
January 24, 201313 yr Regarding conventional scopes....what I don't get is this...most high end scopes only seem to have a ~50-56mm objective lens (though I've seen a few 72mm Zeiss scopes) and then the tubes are only 30-34mm... Yet, these scopes are still upwards of $2-4k. I can buy autofocus camera lenses of at least the same optical quality with significantly larger lens elements for quite a bit less... Large glass elements are a majority of the cost of quality optics... A Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L lens is $1300 yet features a 77mm front element. A 300mm f2.8 has a front element of at least 110mm and costs around $5k. My 300-800mm f5.6 has a front element of around 150mm, and costs around $8k...and it's not like a 300-800mm lens is mass produced... Did I mention that these lenses feature electronics, motors, and some even gyro-stabilized lens elements...? I only have a few lenses with elements smaller than 72mm, and I always think of them as tiny... So...why the cost for these scopes? What am I missing? And dammit, why can't I just mount my 400 2.8L IS or 300-800mm f/5.6 onto my guns, like in 'The Jackal'?
January 24, 201313 yr 12k FOR A SCOPE? Jesus! That thing better come with unlimited sex! It does. Though one of the effects of it is probably a loose butthole.
January 24, 201313 yr What your missing is your camera lense doesnt have to indure the shock of letting loose a 338lm, be able to dial elevation and windage with extreme repeatability because the absolute tiniest deviation will have a large impact on point of impact. Resolution, color, chromatic aberation etc etc are all important factors of a rifle scope but the best clarity in the world aint worth didly if the scope cant repeat.
January 24, 201313 yr It does. Though one of the effects of it is probably a loose butthole. Okay ya got me. I should probably word things better in the future.
January 24, 201313 yr Trijicon's already working on it. Introduced it at SHOT. Trijicon CCAS http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/community/whats_new_item.php?whats_newID=news_115 Hehe... looks HUGE... but looks like fun. Digital reticle that moves within the FOV to show holdovers etc. Like a friggin' video game.
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