Luso

You absolutely MUST print that out and bring it with you.

Your list is good and overwhelms a listener. The only words I would stray from using is "we don't have to be so radical about each side of the issue" you are implying that the Pro side is just as "radical" as the anti. In my opinion, there is nothing radical about supporting 2A, it's constitutional. It would be like saying "I'm all for equality, but the 19th amendment might be a little too radical...do all women really need to vote??" There isn't right and left, there is only right and wrong. The second amendment should be defended as a universal truth and right of the people. Use that overwhelming list to demonstrate there is already too much, and leave it at that. It also makes it seem like you are fighting for a stalemate "we have enough laws, we don't need more" and then implying both sides are radical implies the status quo might be OK, when I am sure many would like to see our antiquated paper system updated to something more modern and efficient, and ultimately an end to the justifiable need clause for carrying edited a few stylistic points

the R staffers said good things. some D staffers scoffed but for the most part, like I said, were surprised at the size of the crowd given the weather. Whether that's a good barometer or not, I don't know I spoke to the Ledger photographers up there and then a maintenance manager for the statehouse who shared with me some of the most common sense 2A arguments. It was pleasant to speak with him and he ardently supported the rally, was complimenting the signs, and nodded along with the speakers. When I asked him where he lived, he said, "PA, are you kidding me? I may work in NJ but no way I am living here!" Then proceeded to boast about how when he got his carry permit, it took 10 minutes from start to finish. He walked in, told his Sheriff he wanted to get his permit, they took his prints, ran some check, and in 10 minutes walked out the door with a carry permit. His words. Meanwhile here I waited 6 months once just to change the address on my FID

That picture is pretty accurate. I took a similar picture and 3 others at different points during the day. With terrible weather, impending blizzard, the turnout is not bad. I was in the crowd then visited a friend in the statehouse who took me upstairs to the 4th floor. The people working for the assembly were all watching from the top floor and they said most protests don't get this many people, except for union protests. They were impressed, even though most did not agree with the sentiment

Just finished. Phenomenal. All I could think about during this is how the President was thoroughly bored, probably felt insulted, and likely knows absolutely nothing about either the fall of Rome or the War of 1812. A great advocacy for personal responsibility, and a rejection of envy and class warfare. This is what we need in a leader

Part about Rome is spot on - President didn't like that either!

did you see the President's face when he mentioned his father had another family? Obama's father did the same exact thing! he had multiple wives and children with other women. he already smelled he didn't like what was coming at that point..

I have a nice shot from my vantage point at the top of the statehouse, but file is too big to attach. Wondering how I can condense Congratulations to Frank and all who attended on a great event.

OK understood now. I guess my only gripe now is an officer's interpretation of"reasonably necessary" seems highly subjective.

But that is the very essence of my question A handful of you are making the hypothetical that I am "picking up my friend, to then after go to a range". You are inherently saying its ok to stop at your friend or family members house. My understanding is that this "unnecessary deviation" is not legal, hence why I am asking my question to begin with. If its ok to stop at your friends, and then go to a range, why isn't it ok to stop at your friends, and then go home? My contention is the letter of the law says you technically can not make this stop. But then on a common sense level, I see no reason why law enforcement would care if I'm bringing a gun to say my fathers house, who also has permits and guns.

the only issue then is if you get pulled over and you aren't conceivably driving towards some range and they know your point of origin because of your license, you could get into a hairy situation i suppose. Because theoretically once you are at someones house, the authorities have zero right to enter without a warrant. It's sad that I can not take something to my own father's house, when we both individually own firearms.

Can one transport a properly stored handgun that you lawfully own, from your home, to the home of another family member ? Can your guns be "left" at those people's houses if I were to go away for some period of time? I know the law says to the range and straight back with no deviation. I wasn't sure if your own family or a friend approve of you bringing a firearm to their home, if that was acceptable. I go shooting with family members a lot. Is it illegal to bring a gun to their house to simply show it to them, and then drive home with it?

That is a terrible price. Don't buy it...are you sure it was the express??? the 870 express should be 299, and at dicks they even have sales sometimes with a rebate from remington which gets it to 270 or so. I saw 870s at the Dicks in Brick a few weeks back at the normal price.

My first 2 toys were also a G23 and a remington 870. Then I got a ruger SR 1911 to cover my 45. Next (already bought just waiting for 30 days to lapse) is a beretta 92fs inox. Coming from someone who had a similar inventory as you to start with, that's the direction I went in. Next is a 357 revolver when I get my next round of permits approved

Dennis Malloy - nj101.5

Will have one as soon as my nics check comes in...full size not the commander version though

The bigger threat likely, is not from violent counter protesters, but from counter protesters covertly disguising themselves as pro 2a people, and then doing/saying outrageous things to make you look bad. Anyone that has cameras should bring them and be prepared to document and expel anyone making a scene within the group.

Will break my word for one more update. The video will be showcased on The O'Reilly Factor tonight for those interested

"We will disarm right after lautenberg, menendez and Christie disarm their security"

I would stay away from religious signs or tangential issues like abortion. Remember, the media that does show up is doing so with the intent to demonized you. They will paint you as religious zealots and extremists. Sounds unfair, but it will happen. Keep it salient, keep it brief . Be prepared to kick out moles who will act out to make us look bad

Some of these are very good. My favorite one is "you hate me because I am black" nothing is better than throwing sacred cows back in their faces, racism is their sacred cow and that one is simple and funny I can't wait to meet you great people in Trenton. I would maybe say something like this "530 murders in Chicago: brought to you by gun control" or "newtown happens in Chicago..12 times a year. The result of strict gun control" "My gun is safer than obamas predator drones" Paint your sign black and write "assault sign" while wearing a hat that says "assault hat"

As I've said before, Obamacare passed because we didn't write the senators and reps enough and have them print enough form letters in response, right? NY passed onerous laws today because we didn't write our senators and reps and get enough form letters, right? Was it really a lack of civic petitioning that resulted in these negative legislative consequences? No, it was circumstance and political opportunism. I am not telling people what to do. Like I said, I myself wrote all my representatives. Write them to your hearts content if that's what you want to do. I am just encouraging people to actually do one over the other, as opposed to exercising a proven, irrefutable act of futility. I merely did it myself for a clean conscience, nothing else. Joining a non-profit, donating to a cause, questioning representatives to their face..all these things are a better expenditure of your time than writing letters. That's why we have non-profits like NJ2AS, the NRA, GOA, SAF, etc, to do with our collective resources what we alone can't do, with their collective power. But since this is bothersome to some, I will not bump this topic any further and will keep to myself

I know that. I am just proving they won't answer your actual questions or address them. They respond with a form letter. I am just making a point as to what i think is most effective and achieves tangible results. People are free to do whatever they want. I did both. My point is contacting them gets you a form letter. Whatever pleasure or sense of accomplishment and civic duty that gives you is fine if that's what you seek. If you want to actually change the narrative in the media, get radio air time across the country, and reach millions of voters with your message, do the alternative. I think it's pretty clear which one is more effective. And all it takes is a citizen with conviction, an internet connection, and an iphone. If the concensus is that my opinion is excessive and offensive, that's fine. I will stop posting

Further proof that any of you still writing letters to politicians are wasting your time. Here is a response from Menendez in which I explicitly asked him to disarm all of the state troopers that protect him, or, work to pass shall issue concealed carry laws in NJ. If he refused to do either, I asked him to explain to me why he thinks his life is more important than mine, in that he deserves armed protection but I do not. Here is his response: Thank you for contacting me to express your concerns regarding additional firearms legislation in the wake of the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut . Your opinion is very important to me, and I appreciate the opportunity to respond to you on this critical issue. As the father of two, this tragedy struck painfully close to my heart and painfully close to the heart of every parent. No parent should ever have to bear the unspeakable pain of losing a child, especially to this type of tragedy. I join with every American in expressing our deep and abiding grief as a nation and our deepest -- most heartfelt -- condolences to the families of the victims. As your Senator, I strongly defend the rights of citizens to use firearms responsibly for recreational purposes or protection of one's family and home. At the same time, I vigorously support efforts to keep guns out of the hands of individuals that wish to use them against society. Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. On this, as with any other issue, there are many different views. Please be assured that I will keep your views in mind. I invite you to visit my website (http://menendez.senate.gov ) to learn more about how I am standing up for New Jersey families in the United States Senate. Do you guys need any further proof that writing these people is an utter waste of your time? I'm shocked he even responded, but as I always said, they never will answer your questions, because they don't have to, and you aren't a danger to their seat. This is why you have to resort to video cameras. They won't answer your letters our emails. Make them answer you to your face, and make them do it on camera. If they run away from you, you win the argument. It's a lose lose for them in person. It's a win win for them with letters.

thanks for the correction. That actually sounds even more ridiculous....can you imagine getting pulled over with a gun and watching a cop individually pull out each cartridge to count them??? Meanwhile, the overnight shootings in Harlem and the Bronx will go on as planned, no interruption. While John Q in the suburbs is counting his magazine of 15 rounds down to 7 to be sure he complies....what disingenuous legislation