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I'm confused, you say no but then that handguns are allowed. Not clear I'm searching the dep site but its hard to find exactly what I am looking for . Will keep searching

Tried searching the forums on this... What are the laws with carrying in state parks? Thought I had heard it is legal to carry there but find that hard to believe in NJ. Our friends like to hike in the mountains but want to be protected in the event of a bear interaction, and this park is known for bear sightings Is it legal to carry a handgun within the park area?

It will be made available soon

Weinberg ended up not showing up due to being "held up in Manhattan at an event with Michelle Obama". In her place Assemblyman Gordon Johnson spoke. On the panel was a journalist whose name I did not get, Assem. Johnson, The chief of police for Englewood, and the father who lost his son. The tenor of the meeting was interesting. Here are a few key points: -the father of the slain son indeed suffered a tragedy. I sympathize with his situation. To be honest though, he spent a lot of the time talking about how he has gotten on MSNBC, chats with Trayvon Martin's parents all the time, will be on the cover of JET magazine, and will be featured in Rolling Stone. Anyone who says what I am saying is immediately labeled a jerk for saying this about the parent of a slain child, but the guy seemed to be on a tour of self promotion capitalizing on a terrible tragedy. He also said many blatant lies about Florida - someone in the crowd asked "how hard is it to get a carry permit in Florida?" he responded "it's scary, it's as easy as getting a driver's license, they don't even really check your history (lie), there's absolutely no sort of training required (another lie), basically anyone can just go up and apply for one and they get it." naturally, the crowd scowled in shock Now, who is going to correct the guy who is there because his son was shot by some psycho? -The people at the meeting themselves said some unbelievably illogical things. Many of them did not get the nuance that Assembleyman Johnson is not a federal representative, and said things like "when you go back to DC, can you please tell your fellow congressmen and obama x y and z?" You basically had a misinformed speaker who suffered a terrible tragedy, speaking to another group of misinformed people. Nonetheless, it was priceless watching Assem. Johnson's facial expression as he reacted to every stupid comment. He very intelligently said absolutely nothing when someone asserted a stupid comment, and just followed with an "ok" or "thank you". -Chief of police was all business, made innocuous, correct declarative statements. He did touch on the buyback program that Englewood conducted and confessed it was unsuccessful because no one turns in "hot" guns, instead, people just take advantage of the free money and turn in guns that were willed or gifted to them that they have no use for. -Assembleyman Johnson is a strange one. He has been on panels with Weinberg before at the Ethical Society. He is pushing for a lot of these measures, but he admittedly stated he is not as "liberal as Loretta Weinberg". He confessed that it is important to mind the rights of the law abiders and that no amount of laws will stop illegal crimes from happening. Given these commendable statements, he still supports many of these measures and touched upon how sloppily the assembly handled their hearings, and said the senate ran it in a much more respectable way by meeting with the pro 2a groups. I think the most fascinating takeaway of the night was a question posed by the moderator about Weinberg making the "confiscate confiscate confiscate" comment, which on record she has said she didn't say that quote and she doesn't know who said it. Assemblyman Johnson asserted it was absolutely Loretta Weinberg who made that comment, and now he is on record contradicting what Weinberg told the press. This is probably the best comment of the night. Admittedly, Johnson appears to be a measured, reasonable guy who believes in his party's ideology; it's more the abstract implication of his comment about Weinberg that if anything is of importance. There were tons of other insipid comments but again, of no consequence to legislation or the politicians. It remains to be known whether the blatant talk of legislation and advocating for legislation is an issue for the church's tax status. Multiple people were recording the event. I encourage everyone to go to ALL events like this and if nothing else, simply record. Putting everyone on record is the only way to advance the discussion. If it isn't recorded, it didn't happen

If nothing else, people from the community need to attend these events and just shove a camera in their face. You can't use anything against them if you don't record them. You change the game once you have people on record. Right now all we have are a bunch of tall tales of things that were said. Look at the difference the "confiscate" video made for the conversation and national media attention. People should go to these meetings and have a camera trained on EACH person speaking on the panel 100% percent of the time. Watch their behavior change, or better yet, you will record something golden

1/2 will be a good for a few people buy may alienate some as that can get steep. i was thinking more 25/50 cents but I am up for whatever. we can mix it up with tourneys. as I mentioned before, does anyone know of a public space like a VFW hall that can be rented?

How so? Would be interested in hearing the rationale. To me, tournaments would be worse: 1. People can't leave if they want to if they are still in 2. If you bust out after 2 hands, now you could be sitting there watching people have fun for hours. That's not fun and will make people bitter 3. It's a generally more tense and contentious type of format, no one likes to bust out before they bubble into a payout position. 4. Cash games can be made for low stakes, and have a generally relaxed, easy going pace. People are not rushed into playing hands for fear of being blinded out. 5. People can stand up to go to the bathroom for a few hands and not care the goal of this is just to get people together for a friendly game and meet new like minded people. In my opinion tourneys may be better suited later on when everyone knows eachother a little better

HA - you think we can convince Ant to start running some games from the range itself? likely a huge liability and impossible but that sure would be convenient

Anyone know of a place like a vfw or lodge that rents out small rooms with tables?

Also I think Cash game lends itself much better to the social aspect. Let's people play at their own pace, and no one likes busting out and then watching everyone else have fun. low stakes ...more for the social/fun aspect than the $$

If we get like 10 people in the North Jersey area, I have no problem creating an email like NJGFCARDS and making an email list and start blasting out potential dates/locations. I am wondering if there is a public place where a table or room can just be rented. Would make everyone feel comfortable being in a common public place and no one has to feel the burden of hosting strangers. Then as people get comfortable we could start rotating hosts?

Maybe if we get enough interest , we could start a rotating game where people take turns hosting? I'm in the Bergen county area Who is interested?

Out of curiosity, are there any forum members who regularly play Hold-em? Been out of the game for a while and moved to north Jersey last year so I don't know anyone around here. Wondering if there are any casual, low stakes games that get together. Might be a good way to get to know other people

I bought my girl pepper spray at meltzers. they have a few of them right by the front counter

Knowing what I know historically about this show and its cast, I am shocked that they were all even mildly supportive (barring Walters who is just a batty geriatric. Watching her arrive at what she thinks are astute political conclusions with her hands held out is cute, I imagine it's the posture she takes when she realizes she didn't crap her diaper at the end of the day) I've heard Sherri say some of the most absurd things on that show. But at least she has the ability to separate her brainwashed political ideology and employ a semblance of common sense when she was confronted with a frightening situation. I do wonder where she lives, it would be fascinating to see her get fast tracked for an instant carry permit due to her celebrity.

found this http://www.huffingto...tm_hp_ref=media has both the view clip and the fox interview clip

did this air today? would be interested in seeing the clip

People had posted in it last night and now the posts are removed, and when you click the thread it doesnt open anything. I searched for it and I don't see it was moved. does anyone know?

What was the post it note idea?

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Red Eye is the only show to watch. The Five is just a tamer version of Gutfeld with some annoying girls prissing it up. Trust me, stick to Red Eye. It is the only television show I DVR and watch on a daily basis

ridiculous..no matter how often we remind people not to dress in stupid costumes..wear your normal everyday clothes!! of course, last time when we had the assembly hearing, one person was wearing a revolutionary war costume out of the hundreds of attendees..what did the New York Times do? Close up shot of the ONE jerk wearing the costume. you have to understand the opponents tactics, not FEED INTO THEM. Stop with the dumb charades of costumes, battle gear, and holsters. Be normal. You wouldn't dress like that walking down the street in your neighborhood. why would you do that when you are trying to convince people that what you believe in is also normal and mainstream? it never ceases to amaze me...leave the costumes and camo to war re-enactors and soldiers

Where is the link to the live cam? is there audio with it? Please post if you have it.

It is the interarms version..which is funny because when I had the idea of getting the ppk, I had been told by a few people to make sure I got an interarms version, and not the S+W. So much for that... That's a good idea with checking walther forums. I will do that. If they are not sympathetic tomorrow, I will shoot you a PM. Will give them a chance to make it right edit: thanks for link, researching now

I did clean it completely when I brought it home. It did the same nonsense whether there was 3 rounds in it or 8. For what it's worth it was American ammo , FMJ (not reloads). Was not bought at rtsp. My fear is in this environment where no gun store is hurting for business, this shop is possibly going to tell me they don't care and it's my problem, call the manufacturer. Which would be rough, considering they take these guns as trade-ins and there is no way to test them. Someone sells them a nice looking dud and they sell it to someone else without a care.... I have no interest in doing a succession of triage tests that cost time money and effort. When you plop down fair market value for a gun i expect it to work. a few scuffs or imperfections..thats expected. but anyone who would have bothered to test this thing would immediately know it is completely unreliable. If a shop buys a gun from someone and sells it to someone else, they should be willing to stand behind it (within some reasonable period of time). I hope they are reasonable when I drop by and ask about it tomorrow...