jm1827

Although I have never worked up a cost for a government full time equivalent I have done so in the corporate world where salaries are slightly higher but pension & benefits are much lower. In the corporate world, a typical middle manager is around $150 per hour fully loaded (P&B, management costs, infrastructure, supplies, depreciation, etc.). So, I would say the $100/ hr. is conservative, but probably not that far off.

I feel for you, almost 6 months for my FID change of address.

I vove for BOTH!

Change of address alone took me 6 months, keep your fingers crossed!

Not surprised at all, as witnessed by the wait times for both FIDs and nics

Second NICS- Submitetd on 21-May, approved on 3-Jun, 13 days

Ordered the same day and mine is still back ordered with no estimated delivery date.

Wow - you beat me, I only had to wait 5-1/2 months!

Good choice, I have one and use 38 for most of my target shooting. Much less expensive, easier on the gun and less recoil.

Mine just came through, 12 days

Mine just cleared- 12 days

5-19-13 to 5-31-13 12 calendar days

I had my first BB gun at age 6, only allowed to use it under close supervision. Bought a pellet gun at age 10 but started getting a little freedom on walks in the woods, etc. By 12 I was reloading my own shotgun ammo completely unsupervised and shooting skeet 3-4 days per week. By 13 or 14 I was hunting and shooting completely unsupervised, as were many of my friends. I can honestly say we never had even an unsafe incident or near miss. We respected firearms and knew the rules. That was a long time ago and would never fly today, but not uncommon where I lived (Sussex County). I have 3 children, the youngest is a son who is 9 and at times acts like he is 6, the oldest is a 13 year old daughter who acts more like she is 16 or 17. I have taken all of them shooting and they all have shown nothing but the utmost respect for guns and have taken gun safety very seriously. So, to your point, I think it may very by individual, but 8 years old is definitely not too young as long as they understand gun safety, respect firearms and listen to basic directions. All of my children know the basics such as never touch a firearm unless a capable & competent adult is present (note capable & competent), never point a gun at anyone, always check to see if a gun is loaded (they all know how), etc.

Could definitely poke an eye out with that thing...or straighten it out and it would be just as deadly as scissors.

And if the background checks take 6 months and they miss the primaries so be it!

Been to Stokes, Flatbrook and the Walkill river many times. Never saw a bear fishing but many other times I have.

Our family likes to hike in the Assunpink here in Monmouth county. There are quite a few trails and several nice lakes, we can make a day out of it hiking, fishing and even shooting some clays.

Saw a bear road kill on Canistear Rd about a mile from the Cherry Ridge range back in the late 80's.

#2- That's how most people feel about towns in NJ

Congrats- took me almost 6 months for a change of address.

Even though I didn't have to get fingerprinted again it still took almost 6 months for the NJSP to finish my change of address.

As others have stated you really need to get an understanding of your pattern, which varies by gun, by barrel, by load and of course distance. I know I was very surprised by how tight the pattern on my 870 was at close range even using a short slug barrel with no choke. It was tighter yet with an improved choke 28" barrel. At close distances (< 10 yds) your pattern is actting more like a large slug, don't expect wide 2 foot patterns at close range.

Finger printing for a change of address is at the discretion of the department. I have had several change of addresses over the past 35+ years and only had to get fingerprinted once.

Exactly, and that is one of the problems. I will be applying for a pistol permit shortly and although I will apply for 3, unless the NJSP grants me an extension it will be difficult to even get 2 with the delays we are seeing now.

Faxed in today, thanks for taking the initiative