ryan_j

Yes, she's a Bloomberg plant, dismantling gun rights in that state bit by bit.

per new agreement: http://www.attorneyg...eement_2013.pdf Not where it says "to legal residents of the Commonwealth of Virginia." Time to take that Utah class.

They already did Virginia. http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Crime/VA_Executed_Amended_Agreement_2013.pdf

These are the Rs that voted to move forward. Some I would have expected like McCain, others surprised me. Phone numbers of their offices for your convenience. Lindsey Graham (SC) (202) 224-5972 Lamar Alexander (TN) (202) 224-4944 Kelly Ayotte (NH) (202) 224-3324 Richard Burr (NC) (202) 224-3154 Saxby Chambliss (GA) (202) 224-3521 John McCain (AZ) (202) 224-2235 Tom Coburn (OK) (202) 224-5754 Susan Collins (ME) (202) 224-2523 Bob Corker (TN) (202) 224-3344 Jeff Flake (AZ) (202) 224-4521 John Hoeven (ND) (202) 224-2551 Johnny Isakson (GA) (202) 224-3643 Dean Heller (NV) (202) 224-6244 Mark Kirk (IL) (202) 224-2854 Pat Toomey (PA) (202) 224-4254 Roger Wicker (MS) (202) 224-6253

Vlad, it's called nipping it in the bud. If they gradually turn up the heat and people think small steps are no big deal, before you know it you'll have a huge mess on your hands.

It's not a done deal yet. They are going to hear and debate amendments. It also has to pass the house where I think it will be shot down. Reid is talking about the amemdments. I hate this lying, deceiving POS. Eff him.

68 in favor, 31 against. And yes, this is just cloture.

Correct. I'm not sure if they could still do the talking kind of filibuster though.

OK looksl ike I was wrong. Bill moves foward.

They're counting the votes now. The usual suspects - Reid, Durban etc have voted yes of course. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and others have voted no. I really doubt they'll have 60 votes.

It's on C-SPAN... going to turn it on now.

True, but one traffic stop gone wrong and you know the rest. Not worth the risk IMO.

The next step would be denying sales to people who can't own firearms and ammo. So I guess you can't buy a stupid plastic box either. Or in NJ they'll ask you to show your FID card to buy every thing gun related - boxes, cases, paper targets etc. Because people just blindly complied and thought it was no big deal, it's no big deal to expand it just a little right? And a little again, and again, and again.

I really would like to see the text of that amendment. Media reports are very conflicting. NY Daily News: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/senate-passes-weak-gun-control-bill-article-1.1313422 "And it would allow owners licensed to carry weapons in any state to bring their guns along to all 50 states including those like New York with concealed weapons bans — as long as they’re in town for just one night" CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/10/politics/congress-gun-laws/index.html Another provision would recognize the legitimacy of concealed weapons permits across state lines. If this passes the house (doubtful) and makes it to Obama's desk I hope it doesn't just mean a resident permit from your home state.

And their carry gun will be a useless paperweight. The moment they use it for self defense in NJ they'll be off to the hoosegow, legit self defense or not.

Yeah save us the trouble. I'll go get the moving truck.

I don't see an opinion about CCW, only a statement of fact. In fact it almost seems like they copied and pasted this from Wikipedia and changed up a few words. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_Jersey#Permits_to_Carry_and_Transport Also: "urgent necessity for self-protection, as evidenced by specific threats or previous attacks which demonstrate a special danger to the applicant‟s life that cannot be avoided by means other than by issuance of a permit to carry a handgun." is what Nappen refers to as "judge made law" via a series of anti-gun decisions handed down from the superior court.

NJ is a "shall issue" state. It's a "shall issue" state for Firearm Purchaser ID cards.

They have to give *something* is my guess. The FID renewal and photo seems like it's happening. That's the only significant thing I saw. No mag limits, no 50 cal ban, no AWB. I still don't want anything passed but this seems like it's not much at all. On the other hand, he put some other poisonous things in there, like regulating violent video games. That's sure to go over well.

It's legal if they are not actually denying sales based on citizenship, which supposedly they are not doing now.

it's on the computer and your only choices are "yes" or "no". You have to press the button.

Then they need to fix that... I said it was likely an error but they still need to fix it.

Well in that case, there's another range in Belleville that you can go to that's $15/hour. The GFH range is top notch and you pay for top notch. But I've been to the other one and it's not too bad (despite what others may say...). It doesn't really seem that expensive compared to the others. RTSP is around the same price. I would join GFH range except that I live too far. But I don't mind paying the hourly rate to shoot now and again when I have the itch to shoot indoors.

I must have the most boring cars on Earth. None of mine have bumper stickers... In fact I just have one sticker on my car and that's from my alma mater (NYU). No pro gun stickers at all, don't want any unnecessary questions during a traffic stop.

I actually don't mind serving. Never got one, but my wife got two summonses. However I may have to try to get out of it if I am called because I have 3 young children and it would seriously screw up our child care arrangements. My wife can't do it alone because she doesn't drive much and not in the city either. It's a massive inconvenience for some and I wish there were a better way to do it. So for that reason I'll see if I could get myself excused. Pay may also be an issue for some. My company pays full salary but not all of them do.