http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/senators-announce-deal-gun-background-check-bill-145147692--election.html

 

Not sure how I feel about this, but what would this add-on mean to citizens here in the People's Republic?

 

​Both Toomey and Manchin are gun owners and have an A rating from the National Rifle Association, the largest pro-gun lobby group. Toomey said he added some provisions to strengthen gun rights in the bill, including allowing a legal gun owner to take his or her concealed weapon over state lines, even if that state does not allow concealed carry.

It probably means that people outside this state can carry here, but we still can't...

I'm just thinking this is how it would work....

Now all of the people from Philly and NY that come to our beach towns will be packing heat...... But we'll just be sweating in the sun....

It probably means that people outside this state can carry here, but we still can't...

I'm just thinking this is how it would work....

Now all of the people from Philly and NY that come to our beach towns will be packing heat...... But we'll just be sweating in the sun....

youd be surprised how many do now....

I grew up with a house in North Wildwood.... My mom grew up in that same house..... I loved that city more than any other place in this world..... In recent years it has went to complete seagull crap.....

I don't even feel safe walking down the road at a late hour.

Alot of the people that come down from Philly are outright nasty people..... I can't tell you how many times I have been chased by a group of punks at 3am....

God forbid one of them was armed and I wasn't..... Well lets just hope there are no track stars or good shots in the group....

Just so its know.... We sold the house last year.... To people from Philly..

Eta- states while someone is traveling across state lines, really doesn't do anything for us

I grew up with a house in North Wildwood.... My mom grew up in that same house..... I loved that city more than any other place in this world..... In recent years it has went to complete seagull crap.....

I don't even feel safe walking down the road at a late hour.

Alot of the people that come down from Philly are outright nasty people..... I can't tell you how many times I have been chased by a group of punks at 3am....

God forbid one of them was armed and I wasn't..... Well lets just hope there are no track stars or good shots in the group....

Just so its know.... We sold the house last year.... To people from Philly..

i know what you mean....a few years back....i was in maine...and ended up in old orchard beach...walking around a while..and i had this odd feeling..couldnt really put my finger on it...then one of the people i was with said he had the same feeling....almost surreal ...then one of the others in the party said..."its probably a feeling of safety"..in slightly different terms......then i realized it must be that...it was like wildwood with the rides/games/ammusements etc...only it was clean..people friendly...no out of control screaming crying kids/parents screaming/threatening them....no "gangstas/thugs"....it was almost like an alternate universe...lol we joked that thats probably how wildwood was back in the 40s/50s...lol

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/senators-announce-deal-gun-background-check-bill-145147692--election.html

 

Not sure how I feel about this, but what would this add-on mean to citizens here in the People's Republic?

 

Toomey said he added some provisions to strengthen gun rights in the bill, including allowing a legal gun owner to take his or her concealed weapon over state lines WHILE TRAVELING, even if that state does not allow concealed carry.

 

Looks like you missed something there, it means nothing more than a more relaxed fopa which will do nothing to help us here

I believe that provision had been removed by the "Compromise".

How about background checks for politicians?

Sounds like national reciprocity bill to me

I believe that provision had been removed by the "Compromise".

Then how the hell did our side compromise?

If this is true, it would be a huge blow if this passes....

 

youd be surprised how many do now....

 

nooooo!! that can't be!

I know for a fact nj will never ccw

I know for a fact nj will never ccw

 

Ok, I'll bite. How do you know this for a fact?

Yeah save us the trouble. I'll go get the moving truck.

youd be surprised how many do now....

 

And their carry gun will be a useless paperweight. The moment they use it for self defense in NJ they'll be off to the hoosegow, legit self defense or not.

Yup....IMO.....NJ will never CCL and these two are idiots.

i was in maine...and ended up in old orchard beach...

 

That's a real nice spot and boy is that water refreshing! haha

I am thinking that all it means is that I can drive through your State with my concealed gun but not make NJ as my final destination and carry while there. Sort of the same laws in place for transporting firearms under Federal law except I can have it concealed on me while doing so. I do not see it meaning that I can visit my family in NJ and carry concealed. That would provide loopholes for concealed carry in NJ and I just do not see that happening. My guess is that I can drive through NJ with my FL resident CCW License but if I stop I have to secure it in my car or at best, be allowed to carry it at stops incidental to my trip such as stopping for gas.

I really would like to see the text of that amendment. Media reports are very conflicting.

 

NY Daily News:

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/senate-passes-weak-gun-control-bill-article-1.1313422

 

"And it would allow owners licensed to carry weapons in any state to bring their guns along to all 50 states including those like New York with concealed weapons bans — as long as they’re in town for just one night"

 

CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/10/politics/congress-gun-laws/index.html

 

Another provision would recognize the legitimacy of concealed weapons permits across state lines.

 

 

If this passes the house (doubtful) and makes it to Obama's desk I hope it doesn't just mean a resident permit from your home state.

 

 

And their carry gun will be a useless paperweight. The moment they use it for self defense in NJ they'll be off to the hoosegow, legit self defense or not.

 

Hows that saying go? Oh yeah

 

Better tried by 12 than carried by 6.

How about background checks for politicians?

 

I have been advocating this for years including an extensive mental health history check, have them fingerprinted and have them write a five page written explanation on why they want to run. And also include a bond contract in which they swear to uphold the laws of the constitution and the bill of rights. If they, support, introduce, vote for, sponsor any legislation that goes contrary to the bill of rights and the constituion. They lose the bond money and can get thrown out of office for failing to live up to bond contract.

They should be required to undergo a psychological evaluation and lie detector test......IMO.

Hows that saying go? Oh yeah

 

Better tried by 12 than carried by 6.

 

True, but one traffic stop gone wrong and you know the rest. Not worth the risk IMO.

Hmmm - still don't like the bill

My guess would be even if this was the law NJ would still try to bankrupt said person in court. Just to send a message.

My guess would be even if this was the law NJ would still try to bankrupt said person in court. Just to send a message.

 

Or they could just ignore the law like NYC does with FOPA.

CCW was removed, if it ever existed.

 

What they did was weaken FOPA so that it only applies if you can convince the arresting officer of your compliance with federal law.

CCW was removed, if it ever existed.

 

What they did was weaken FOPA so that it only applies if you can convince the arresting officer of your compliance with federal law.

 

It was removed from the bill but may be added as an amendment.

It was removed from the bill but may be added as an amendment.

 

The Feinstein AWB is more likely to be added as an amendment. Which has been determined to be scheduled for a vote, unlike national CCW.