ryan_j

I really haven't found RTSP's pricing to be all that bad. My next firearm purchase will probably be from there. It is competitive with what you see on gunbroker and other places.

Be sure and tell your assembly and senate reps you went through this ordeal. They need to know that the FID system is wrongfully netting law abiding citizens... and military veterans! I'd also contact some of the 2A friendly ones, such as Mike Carroll, Tony Bucco, Jeff Van Drew and Alison McHose. And don't forget Governor Christie. Let him know. He's back in the saddle again running for President and he doesn't need another Brian Aitken on his hands.

It could very well be denied, but now you have the 9th circuit with Peruta, Richards and Baker. There is confusion in the circuits over this issue. I think it is better that they grant the petition for a writ of certiorari and get it over with. But if they deny this, there is also Pantano as a backup case. Pantano is going to the NJ Supreme Court and can be appealed to the US Supreme Court once it is disposed of in the NJSC. But again, we go back to the three California cases. Once the en banc petitions are over with, they can and will likely be appealed to the US Supreme Court unless the court takes Drake first. This would also have implications for us.

Drake is just one of the plaintiffs. There were two other plaintiffs that have since dropped off because they got permits - Jeff Muller finally got his permit after the Star-Ledger wrote an article embarrassing the state, and also because NJ wanted to make the case weaker. Daniel Piszczatoski (pis-ca-toss-key) got his permit when he retired from the coast guard, as a retired LEO. So if Drake drops off, there are two others - Lenny Salerno and Finley Fenton. And if they drop off, ANJRPC is still there on behalf of its members, like they did with the Revell case. So this case is not going away unless it is granted and decided or it is denied certiorari, OR NJ decides to go shall issue for everyone.

They probably had some outdoor advocacy group write the law, and they did the language and inserted fishing to make it future proof.

Probably. Thing is though, that the hotel stay could be a "reasonable deviation" and covered under state law. Regardless, best to keep your mouth shut about your overnight hotel stay.

LGA and JFK are definitely a problem. Many people are arrested at those airports. You got lucky.

"2A only applies in the home" because the antis see that Heller addressed the right within the home and declined to address it anywhere else. Therefore, they use and abuse the language in Heller to confine it to the home. Prior to Heller, they wanted to confine the 2A to the militia. Now that that has been struck down, they are saying that Heller decided that guns are to be confined to the home. When eventually, either through this case or another one, the right is determined to apply outside as well as inside the home, they will come up with some other way to claim that the right is heavily restricted. Basically, the end justifies the means.

FOPA doesn't mention magazines... so magazines may not be covered.

If your vehicle has a trunk, or other compartment separate from the driver, other than a glovebox or console, it can be in the trunk. Doesn't have to be in a locked container. If your vehicle doesn't have a trunk (eg. SUV, van, hatchback) it needs to be in a locked container. One other question, if you have an out of state permit that is recognized by PA (like Utah) do you have to carry the gun on your person once in the state, or can you leave it in your trunk? What happens if you leave it in your car when you go to say a Walmart, is that allowed in PA? You can leave it in your car. That is legal (it's not illegal).

You need a hobby or something or maybe get laid? You dug this up to make a point? You're still wrong btw. Are you upset because I called you out for being wrong? Drive to PA, DE or some other state with valid license to carry: On your property, legal to possess. Pack unloaded firearm in locked container in car. Drive to state where it is legal to possess, with valid license. Remove firearm from vehicle, load, put in holster. Carry open or concealed. FOPA according to the 3rd circuit is obeyed because you started where it is legal to possess, firearm remained in vehicle until your destination where it was legal to possess. Fly out of airport: On your property legal to possess. Pack unloaded firearm in locked container in car. Drive to NJ airport. Take firearm out if car, in container headed to airport terminal. Illegal possession according to the third circuit... BUT case involved a nonresident who did not start from a legal place. So it is still a gray area until a resident becomes a test case. Clear enough? Or do I have to break out the muppets?

It means the kinds of weapons that you are allowed to use on your hunting license - muzzleloaders, shotguns. No pistols. But then again, if you have a FID, you can already possess those.

If you submit your brief with days to spare, your opponent now has days to analyze and pick apart your argument. Plus things always change and you always want the latest relevant arguments in your brief.

That's fine. They're the police. They can call anybody they want. They just can require you to fill out illegal forms.

Bingo. This is why I would rather fly out of PA or CT. Also, this decision lends clarity to FOPA believe it or not... their issue was that FOPA applied to transport in a vehicle. Fine. I put the firearms in my vehicle in my garage where I can legally possess them. Drive to the airport in PA or CT where I have a carry permit, check them in and I am covered under FOPA until my destination.

I don't think 10 days is a hard deadline. That said, they may submit it today. No attorney ever turns in a brief early. In a past life I used to work on tenders and contracts and I always sent it out to be deposited literally minutes before the deadline...

Nappen book is where I saw that. Relevant statutes, with relevant parts highlighted. http://law.onecle.com/new-jersey/2c-the-new-jersey-code-of-criminal-justice/39-6.html 2C:39-6. Exemptions. ... (skipping all the boring parts about police, military and others) f. Nothing in subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent: (1) A member of any rifle or pistol club organized in accordance with the rules prescribed by the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice, in going to or from a place of target practice, carrying such firearms as are necessary for said target practice, provided that the club has filed a copy of its charter with the superintendent and annually submits a list of its members to the superintendent and provided further that the firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section; (3) A person transporting any firearm or knife while traveling: (a) Directly to or from any place for the purpose of hunting or fishing, provided the person has in his possession a valid hunting or fishing license; or (b) Directly to or from any target range, or other authorized place for the purpose of practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions, provided in all cases that during the course of the travel all firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section and the person has complied with all the provisions and requirements of Title 23 of the Revised Statutes and any amendments thereto and all rules and regulations promulgated thereunder; or So basically there are two exemptions with a subtle or important difference. 2C:39-6 f (1) allows a member of a rifle or pistol club to carry firearms (as specified in subsection g, which basically means in your trunk or in a case, unloaded) needed for target practice to "a place of target practice" which is not really defined. "A place of target practice" seems like it could mean anywhere, such as a range, or even a friend's back yard or farm. 2C:39-6 f (3) allows anyone to carry firearms to an authorized target range or other authorized place. Of course, don't take my word for it, buy Nappen's book. I am not the attorney. He is, and he is qualified to give legal advice, not me.

NJ criminal code of justice 2C:39-6.

Kinda. If you're a member of a rifle or pistol club, you can shoot anywhere you can legally discharge a firearm. If you're not, you are limited to authorized target ranges.

Yeah I'm optimistic but cautious. That said my next trip out of EWR may involve a gun training class.

There is much dispute over that claim. Truth is, nobody knows, but the popularization of the term started with Josh Sugarmann, who founded the Violence Policy Center (VPC). Oh, by the way Sugarmann is a native of Newtown, CT. As for the term "Assault rifle" that is a literal translation of a German name for a weapon invented by the Nazis.

Atheists believe in natural rights. They just don't believe that some man from the sky gave them to you.

Elect a pro gun governor.

Admin code is decided by the AG and based on case law. You guys know the AG has the power to eliminate may issue and the NJ AWB overnight right?

Pretty much this, except that NJ residents "may" be covered under the exemptions and not under FOPA. This is why you need to he going to a range when you travel.