ryan_j

100% illegal form and we have a court decision to back it up. Go get 'em.

And you're not current or retired law enforcement, correct?

Maybe. But it could end up like what happens at NYC airports. If you have a cased, unloaded firearm, attempt to check it in and don't have a NYC license, the airline clerks will call the cops on you, and you will most likely be arrested. If you have a NYC premises license, they'll probably call the cops on you, and courtesy of the Beach v Kelly decision, your permit will be revoked. I have no idea why this doesn't happen in NJ to NJ residents, which is why when flying with a firearm I prefer to NOT fly out of NJ airports and be a possible test case... I'd rather fly out of PA or CT where I have valid permits to carry so there can be no question as to the legality of possession.

Chasing NJ covered it: http://www.my9nj.com/story/25066425/mans-fight-to-bear-arms#.UzHTfeoJh6Q.twitter

Wow. Coming from you I'm scared now. I have to go and bathe in holy water now.

You are correct. Lol

You will see the order granting or denying on the following monday, which is the 21st. So either there will be plenty of celebrating on that date, or wailing and gnashing of teeth. I am not making a prediction.

Yep. Those conferences are the best kept secret in the entire world. If they were open, we would know exactly why they aren't taking cases.

Keep that kind of talk West of the Delaware. Here you'll likely prompt a full vehicle search...

I once was asked that question, all I said was, "home." Got off with a warning.

That's an easy one. The residents of Camden.

Agreed. I always have my range pass and membership card with me in the car. I NEVER consent to any search. All firearms are out of sight, out of mind.

Gray area open for interpretation.

Yes, it's a "soft" tyranny and it's already happening.

Even the NJ courts have agreed that 2A applies outside the home. They are now arguing that going to the range or place of business and the limited justifiable need carry permit scheme satisfies that.

I agree. He needs to see a primary opponent. A lot of these guys run unopposed.

Bucco I know is on vacation. So that's why he abstained. He made this statement on social media: Bill A-2006 is ill-conceived. My assembly colleagues that supported this legislation do not see the unintended consequences of this bill. The thought that by reducing the capacity of ammunition magazines from 15 to 10 will stop criminals from utilizing 15 round clips is ridiculous. This bill prevents law-abiding, legal gun owners the ability to protect themselves and their families. We need to push hard to stop this in the Senate.

The earliest is the 28th, but that will probably not happen. Could be as early as April 4 or the 18th. The Court does not meet on the 11th.

The other thing is that the clock is ticking. The Heller five aren't getting any younger, and who knows who will be elected in 2016. If Hillary or another Democrat is elected, it will be full wrecking ball mode on the Constitution via the US Supreme Court.

The AG does not have to oppose certiorari for Drake, but is generally expected to, since the AG is supposed to defend all NJ laws. Now, if Christie really wanted to do something for us, he could have instructed the AG to file a brief in support of certioarari... but that would make absolutely no sense.

Here's something else I've always wondered. Say you're going to the range, a gunsmith, hunting or some other exempted location. Forget about having a FID. Let's say you have a handgun (Yes, I know NJ doesn't allow hunting with handguns. You're going hunting out of state. Ignore FOPA for a second, because technically FOPA doesn't apply unless you're in a vehicle.) If you live in an apartment, would you illegally be in possession if you step outside into the hallway with your range bag with the gun(s) in it? What if you live in a house but your car is parked down the street. Would you be illegally in possession if you had to walk to the car? What if you had to walk two blocks to a parking garage where you keep your car. I've lived in such a place before, admittedly not NJ (It was Manhattan, NYC). Would you be illegally in possession if it was NJ? Also, let's say they pass this "reasonable deviations clarification" bill that removes the judge's discretion... see what I mean?

I have a feeling that the judges talk among themselves, and nobody really wants to do an en banc review... because let's face it, they've already been through this clusterf**k with Nordyke, which was stuck in the court for a whopping 12 years. And yes, it was the same 3 judge panel that heard all 3 on the same day.

I did. Someone posted it to scribd. No login required.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/213562890/Baker-v-Kealoha-Decesion

Looks like we have a decision in the Baker case out of Hawai'i. I would have posted the decision but NJGF has decided to keep its attachment file size limit small, so I guess you'll have to go fetch it yourselves. I've posted it on NJ2AS facebook group, NJ2AR and Gun for Hire Radio's facebook.