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yeah, my point exactly.. he didnt want to hear any of that though.. and the fact that he basically hung up on me really pisses me off

i really dont want to have to go down that route just yet... i hate name dropping (so to speak) if it can be resolved without that.. but the thought had crossed my mind..

they (NJSP) arent open on the weekends when i called earlier.. and why should we call the Lakewood police department? (just curious)

well, is the NJSP tells them its OK to transfer it to my wife, then it wont be stealing.. but i guess the NJSP is going to have to be my wife's next call to explain the situation to them and hopefully get this straightened out.. if we ever get this resolved, then that will most likely be the last dealing with them that we have. Which is too bad, because we were thinking about getting memberships there. they are the closest range to us.. (again, note, I am in process of getting my own FPID and two P2P's, which should be completed in the next couple weeks).

Patriot - This is the husband again.. (sorry, didnt realize she was going to post using my account, but she's rightfully pissed off about this) We were not rude until he brought up the straw purchase and that he starting muttering things under his breath about finding the gun and why we didnt have a receipt, etc. He was quite clearly in a pissy mood because we were there before the delayed opening (that we didnt know about). The gun was purchased BY MY WIFE, in HER name, and we have the online receipt to prove that. She went into SS last weekend (with me alongside her) to fill out the paperwork for NICS/Transfer, and they happily accepted it then. My name was NOWHERE on the purchase or the receipt or paperwork anywhere. It was all completed by her and her alone. SS was "in the loop" because we had to call there to ask them to fax the FFL info to the online place she bought it from, so it was not simply shipped to SS blindly. We knew the FFL cost and NICS cost ahead of time, so that was not an issue. It was simply the fact that I was with her at the time it was being picked up and when he asked what it was, I answered that "we" are here to pick up the Maverick 88 Shotgun that we were called about on Tuesday evening after the NICS came back (in HER name and her name alone) I find it disappointing that they would pull that simply because we happen to go everywhere together and that I happened to answer him when he asked what we were picking up, and I happened to say that "we were there to pick up ....." (considering the fact that "we" were both there, it seemed simple enough)

So we purchased a gun - through LEGAL CHANNELS-and this is the treatment we receive?

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OK this is the wife...hi all...husband on phone now...the gun shop just REFUSED to sell us the gun or even transfer to another shop..then hung up!

is anyone on here a NJSP person? Jesus, this is ridiculous

exactly my point.. we are married (and live together).. that was kind of what she was trying to argue with the guy when we were there.. she's calling them back now to try to find out if they are going to allow it or not.. ok, we just talked to the guy.. he is not willing to transfer it to my wife and not willing to transfer it to another FFL. he said we need to talk to the state police before he does anything.... what the f*ck

she has the receipt from the online purchase (in her name), but not the SS receipt for the transfer/nics payment since we (or should I asy SHE) hasnt paid for that yet (which is what she is trying to do).. Wall is a bit further away (25 minutes) and SS is only about 12 minutes away, which is why we used them.. However, I dont think we will use them for FFL in the future.. are you referring to Ron @ Legacy in Wall? (saw him when originally doing my FFL search)

i thought he WAS the owner.. (?).. there was also a older guy there who didnt say anything while we were arguing with him.. dont know if he is the owner..

OK, just want to let you know what happened today.. My wife purchased a Maverick 88 Shotgun online and had it transferred to Shore Shot for the FFL transfer (its the closest one to us). She has wanted to get one for a while now, and decided to bite the bullet and get it (no pun intended). She figured it would be "right" to have a nice small security shottie in the house in case we needed it. (Easy enough to understand). She has had her FPID for about 17 years.. We both went there last Saturday morning after grocery shopping (we go everywhere together) so she could fill out the NICS and transfer paperwork. We didnt have a problem when we went in there to foll this paperwork out.. We did not pay at the time she filled out the paperwork. Got a call on Tuesday evening that the NICS was back and it was ready to pick up. No problem, we would go back this Saturday (today) to pick it up. So, as our usual Saturday morning ritual goes, we went grocery shopping and then headed over to Shore Shot to pick up the shotgun.. So..... We get to SS (at 10:30) and even they open at 10, the guy says they arent open yet because they had a delayed opening since there was no heat in the range.. He said to hand out for a few minutes as he had just gotten done shoveling.. OK, so we sat in the car for about 10 or 15 minutes and he finally called us in.. First off, he's in a pretty pissy mood because there's no heat and he's seemingly frustrated that we were there. So he asks what gun it is, and i tell him its a Maverick 88 shottie.. He's getting annoyed because he cant find it right away (and by right away, i mean it wasnt the first gun he saw in their pile of guns waiting to be picked up)... Then he asks for the receipt (which we didnt get because we hadnt PAID for it yet). So we told him that. So, he's continuing to mutter under his breath about why we didnt have a receipt, but to be fair, he seemed annoyed with the fact that whoever it was that helped us last weekend didnt give us a receipt). So, he asks whose gun it is, and I say "hers" (pointing to my wife, standing right next to me). So then he gets very annoyed and says "we're not open until 12, come back then" (this is after he opened up the box). He goes on to start ranting that this sounds like a Straw Purchase because I referred to us as "we" or "our" as opposed to "her". I flat out asked him if it would have made a difference if I didnt come into the place with her, and he flat out said "yes". So my wife is all sorts of pissed off at this point, as we drove all the way down there to pick up the gun that she LEGALLY bought and LEGALLY transferred and LEGALLY filled out the paperwork for. His big issue is that I was there with her and since I dont have my FPID yet (as I have mentioned on here a couple times, it is currently in process, and I have all the paperwork to back that up including printing receipts and the forms from the PD in Howell). However, that is pretty irrelevant.. So... He is arguing back and forth with my wife (who has a short temper at times as well) and he says he isnt doing anything until after 12 when he has time to review the tape to see (not sure what?).. My wife is the one who filled out the paperwork last weekend while we were there and I was with her then because as I said earlier, we go everywhere together.. We have both shot at SS before, so its not like its the first time we've been there.. Now, I understand what a straw purchase is.. My wife, however had never even heard that term before, so after we left (in great anger, mind you), I explained to her what it was. Which is clearly not what's happening.. The only thing I have to do with any of this is the fact that I was with her when we went to SS both to fill out the paperwork and to pick it up.. Oh, and I guess the fact that she asked me to research for her which one I thought would be right for her before she ordered it is the other extent of my involvement. However, she purchased it, filled out the paperwork and went to pick it up.. Does this seem normal behavior? I get the firearm industry is in a bit of a tizzy these days and maybe he's just being overly cautious, but I dont know what he was trying to accomplish by not allowing her to pick up her legally obtained gun.. She can't learn all about the gun unless we HAVE it.. I dont know which guy it was, but i THINK it was Kyle.. (shorter, older guy who wears a hat, seen them in there the last couple times we went). Is this common? Conversely, if he refuses to allow us to pick it up, can (and should) we have it transferred to a different FFL? (If so, I assume she wouldnt have to go through another NICS check since it was just done this week?) What do you guys think about this situation? We are going to call back a little after noon to see if he is going to allow us to pick up the gun. If he says yes, we will go, and she will go in alone this time.. If he says no, can we ask him to send it somewhere else?

not too bad here either. maybe 3-4" (5 at most) when all said and done. dont even need to get the snow blower out to get out of the driveway.. which is a good thing because we are going to pick up my wife's new shottie today.. been waiting to pick it up since Wednesday (went last Sat for paperwork and Nics came back late Tuesday night). she was going to be be pissed if we couldnt make it to Shore Shot today, but given the lighter snow than expected, shouldnt be a problem..

weight on 6" is obviously more, but will have less felt recoil than the 4".. i personally think 4" is a good combo between heft, recoil and length.. (but thats just me from what i've seen) note - i have very limited experience! heh

im still seeing Wideners as "In Stock".. (unless you went to check out and told you they are out?)

i've heard that some ranges dont like you to use LRN's, but only FMJ's. Is that accurate?

took advantage of this today.. got my confirmation email.. should get my card in 2-4 weeks.. was never any kind of a member before, but i was also not into guns before either..

wait, cancel that.. i thought it was in NJ that they were talking about.. i guess it wasnt, so my story is the same as the OP's.. nevermind.. carry on.. heh

i heard something on 101.5 today about some place proposing a bill that would require 1st graders take an NRA "FIRST" gun safety course.. I cant remember where it was, and i doubt HIGHLY it will pass.. but i'd get behind that as well..

from what i hear, lasers are a bit trickier than they seem.. good for shooting where the laser is, but if you dont have the most steady hand, the laser jumps all over the place (not from personal experience, but my father, who is a much more seasoned shooter than I told me that).. above aside, my wife wants one too (a laser) when i eventually get her a SW M&P22 (possibly)..

right now is the time i wish i had my P2P's back from the PD already.. and Patriot is right, a stainless under $700 seems to be a good deal these days.. seeing them as high as $900 on places like Gunbroker

OK, i am thinking about getting a S&W MP22 as my "other P2P" gun (first is reserved for the elusive CZ 75B Stainless) since its full sized and something the wife would be able to shoot. Shel likes the full size feature and the lack of recoil is good for her.. Just curious about 3 things.. 1. What should do I do with it as soon as I get it? (and I don't mean "take it to the range"). Should it be cleaned and oiled? it is OK right out of the box? What would you good folks suggest? 2. What are some easy mods I can make to it that would make it even better to shoot? (different springs, triggers, sights, etc). Just wondering what anyone else has done.. 3. What ammo is everyone using for this gun? (i know CCI Mini Mag HV are the obvious choice, but are others using some other brand/variety without any failures?) Last thing I want is for the wife to shoot it and get a FTF or FTE.. She's in the "i want to pick it up and go bang without issue" camp.. Anyone have thoughts on these?

This is quite the interesting subject.. only recently joined the forum and am poking around.. some really interesting choices in music here.. lol.. personally, i would picture myself with some of the heavier music for this kind of thing..

there are only 2 forms you should need.. the form to order the P2P (which is the same form as the FPID) and the mental health consent form.. then you pay the $18 for the background check (yellow form, has to be done at the PD) and however much money for the permits ($2 per) and that should be it.. anything more and its just your local PD that is asking for more stuff not sure what is meant by a packet, as i only had to fill out those 2 forms (new FPID, so no yellow form)