Howard

That is a true statement, but the flip side is that the actual cost of the metal is also much much higher than it was 20 years ago. As far as case volume I don't think it would be impacted significantly by the slight thinning of the walls. Even if it were could they not make up for it by seating the bullet a fraction of an inch deeper in the case to maintain the same case volume? Think back 20 years ago how things like soda cans were much thicker walled than they are today. The same goes for 2 liter bottles, car fenders, and just about any other form of packaging you can think of. Maybe ammunition makers have not worked on this, but I bet they have. If they have not yet, you can bet they will be as costs continue to rise.

I agree 100% there is a safety margin, good engineering requires that. What I question is what exactly is that safety margin. I would venture to say it is much lower than it was ten or twenty years ago. I am sure they do detailed analysis to determine how they can safely thin the walls to save money. Think about how many billions of rounds are produced and what a few fractions of a cent in production cost goes right to the bottom line. Its probably a lot cheaper to buy insurance than to make thicker cases.

Glad to hear no personal injury. This is something I have always been concerned of when people tell me about reloading. The way I see it the companies that make ammo do it to make money (like duh!). But my point is that I would imagine that they have engineers that calculate the minimum wall thickness for the pressure the round will see and add some safety margin. I doubt they add extra metal to provide extra strength for multiple uses of the case where they get no compensation for that future usage. Thus, I would expect to see more and more of these issues as companies strive to minimize cost while maximizing income.

The price is only fair. I had purchased the Barska AX11646 Multi-Access Biometric Keypad Safe which is a larger pistol safe with both biometric and keypad acess (plus key) for $165 delivered from ebay (new). Actually just found it on Amazon for $155 with free shipping: http://www.amazon.com/BARSKA-Compact-Biometric-Keypad-Safe/dp/B005I5W3Z2/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1374439122&sr=1-2&keywords=Barska+AX11646

The bigger question, does not matter if it happened today or a year ago, why has lap dog Holder not had the dude arrested? Oh wait, he and 0bungler only support the laws they support - silly me thinking the president's job was to support and defend the laws passed by congress.

In some parts of the state it is done in under two weeks, in other parts it is nine months or longer - your mileage may vary, sorry Just imagine the outcry if it took six to nine months from when a person applied for food stamps till they got them - every news outlet in the state, probably in the country, would be all over it.

Interesting question, but unless he was a relative and is dead and left them in a will to you I don't think they are now yours. To make them yours assuming they were handguns you would need a properly executed p2p. If they are long guns I still think you both have to fill out a COE for the transfer, but I am not certain about that one. I would guess that here in NJ once you opened that door you became a fugitive by possessing illegally obtained guns. Probably best to never open that door

Well that is welcome news as I took the class on May 1st, so maybe I will see something soon.

Favorite for what purpose? For HD it is my Glock G22 for its super reliability, .40cal stopping power and 15+1 capacity - but it is not exactly a fun range toy. For fun and accuracy on the range I love my 1911's.

Its interesting how all the talking heads are talking about law suits against George Zimmerman now that the criminal trial is over. What about the law suit against the hoodie-wearing thugs parents? Remember that he was "only a child" and parents are responsible for the actions of their children. Since it was shown in court that self-defense was justified and that Martin inflicted bodily harm to Zimmerman I would think he has cause of action to sue them for his attack and pain and suffering.

GFO, first thanks for your service. I am sure they can speak for themselves but my understanding is they give the law enforcement discount to encourage LEO's to practice. We all hear way too many stories about cops that get in gun fights and can't hit the wide side of a barn and shoot lots of bystanders. Please no flames, I know that is not true of all LEO's by far and some are very good. But as I said I believe the discount is to motivate them to practice more and I credit the place for doing that. I think the lesser discount for service members is just a way of saying thanks, but not designed for anything more. Not sure why anyone should get a discount for a job they chose to do anyway - but that is an entirely different story. As for not being questioned by a pushy sales person when you walk into a store I like that. I hate when I walk into a car dealer to look and I am swarmed by commission hungry fools that know less about the cars than I do. Likewise I hate that at many gun stores you are greeted by a nasty old-timer that growls at you "what do you want", making you feel as if you walked into their livingroom uninvited.

Yea I must agree it is a strange numbering system. You would think a G22 would fire .22LR not .40 S&W.

They always used to stock it at the Pathmark near me, but they closed that store a few years back. Try to find one and see. You do know Google is your friend, type the name in and it shows up at Shoprite and Walmart.

This case should never have gone to court, which was what the initial decision was before the media got involved to stir up the pot.

I don't have a droid, but someone should tag all the houses of all the mayors against guns

Does this really surprise you with 0bungler and Holder? 0bungler needs to be impeached. Doesn't the president swear and oath to uphold the laws of the United States. Doesn't that mean all of them, not just the ones he likes? Imagine if a Republican did all the crap this fool does.

Freedom Munitions has great stuff. It is relatively clean and I have never had it in bad casings. I have shot both their new and Remanufactured in 9mm, .40cal, .45acp, .357 magnum and .38 special.

Would like to, but living in the NW part of the state I would have to leave now to get there on a weekend in the summer.

I understand where some of you are coming from, but I don't agree. All knowledge is good. Just like you prepare by going out and getting a weapon and going out and training and plan for the unlikely; you should also be prepared for what might come after you have to pull that trigger. The only way to be prepared is to understand what others may have gone through when they had to do that. If people don't want to share that info that is fine, but please don't claim it is not important information to have in hand. That is why I also asked if any NJ LEO's could chime in with what they experienced happened when they were involved in one of these cases. So, enough of saying it does not belong, if you don't want to share and learn why not just..... oh forget it.

I find it very interesting that there are many many threads here and on other boards about how everyone has all these guns laying around the house with all sorts of special rounds for home defense and that they are ready to take action. Don't you think it makes sense to understand what you might be in for if you do take action? I for one think people should be aware of what potential consequences they might be in for if they take action. If everyone here is chicken then perhaps some LEO's on the board could comment about their experience when they arrived at the scene in NJ of a self-defense shooting.

A U.S. Marine Colonel was about to start the morning briefing to his staff. While waiting for the coffee machine to finish brewing he decided to pose a question to all assembled. He explained that his wife had been a bit frisky the night before and he failed to get his usual amount of sound sleep. He posed the question: how much of sex is "work" and how much is pleasure? A Major chimed in with 75%-25% in favor of work. A Captain said it was 50%-50%. A lieutenant responded with 25%-75% in favor of pleasure (depending on his state of inebriation at the time) Being there was no consensus, the colonel turned to the PFC who was in charge of making their coffee and asked for HIS opinion.Without any hesitation, the young PFC responded, "Sir, it has to be 100%pleasure. The colonel was surprised at his certainty and as you might guess, he asked why? "Well, sir, if there was any work involved, the officers would have me doing it for them." The room fell silent...

Gee, I guess you can be paranoid and still have real enemies. No one is asking for names or locations - just say "my friend" if you want to keep it hypothetical. I really think this would be good information for people to be able to understand what really happens if you shoot a person in this state.

If DE is done right, it is not a PITA and is far superior in filtration than sand. I have heard that some people actually put a little DE in their sand filters to improve filtration. As for operation, get the biggest DE filter you can. I have the largest size Hayward unit for my 20 x 40 pool, I think it takes 7.5 pounds of DE when you charge it. I also have an intelliflow pump that I have set at 1650 RPM which gives me a flow of around 15gpm that I run 24x7. It consumes about 340 kwh at that operating speed. Using this low continuous flow I have good turn-over and almost no pressure drop across the DE filter. I typically change the DE only once during the year and that is with opening the pool the first week in April and closing in mid-October.

Once you know what you are doing, through experience, it really get quite easy. I use BBB with the exception that I put one puck in the chlorinator once a week. My reason for this is two fold. First you do need a certain amount of stabilizer, and the pucks add that. If you use just pucks you do end up with too much stabilizer and this is why many people have issues. The other reason I do this is that the pucks tend to drop the pH while bleach raises the pH, thus by doing this I end up adding much less borax. If I go away for a week I will add three pucks for the week. As for testing, it really only take a minute or two to do, how busy can you really be? That said, I maybe test the pool once every two weeks anymore as when I swim I am able to tell what is needed at this point by the taste of the water. Call me crazy, but it works well. I also have a very low level of chlorine (1-2 ppm) almost never shock the pool and never have any algae or other issues.

I replaced mine about 15 months ago and it ran around $3,000 for a 20x40 pool. All the bids came in within about /-$300 with the exception of the outfit that would give me a lifetime "guarantee" that one was $5,500 but only if I signed on the spot - yea right! That included all work by their dedicated crew, no subs. It included any and all work needed to the base below the liner, and water treatment and chemicals. They did the entire job in one day. Probably not 100% legal, but we filled the pool with a high capacity submersible pump in a stream. Filled the entire pool in six hours. Figured the stream owed us since we dumped the old winter water there as well There was one other bidder that at no extra cost told me they had a big bladder they could pump the old water into and then reuse that to fill the pool. I figured with 15 year old water and who knows what in it I was better to start from scratch.