Howard

So, we all know it is legal to have hollow point ammo in your home and take it to and from the range to use in NJ. But what about getting it to your house in the first place. Let's say you have some that is coming via UPS, but you will not be home when it arrives. I rather not have it just sit outside where it could be taken. So, is it legal to have UPS hold it and then go pick it up from them - or would that not qualify as bringing it home from the store where you purchased it?

I vaguely recall that they changed it a few years back and they charge different rates on new(ish) vehicles versus old(er) once. Perhaps her car is older and your cycle is newer????

^ THIS !!!!

It might not do anything, but it is better to something than nothing. If only they required background checks and an FID card to vote we would not be in this mess.

Thanks, did it earlier from the Facebook post, but nice to have here for those not on FB.

Wow did not think NY let you store weapons in your car either

I just recently got a new 686+ 4" and love it. It is an amazing gun, and a heck of a lot more accurate than I am. I find it much more accurate than my Glock or 1911. When you shoot .357 you feel it, but when you shoot .38spl it feels like you are shooting a .22 cal gun. I love it.

How about no drugs in public housing? And what about no gang members too!!!!

What about if the owner gives you permission?

Just another case where the State screws over gun owners. They let me pay my income taxes with a personal check, they let me pay my property taxes with a personal check, and I can get my driver's license also with a personal check. So, why do I have to use a money order to get a gun permit? Aren't money orders what criminals use when they don't want people to be able to track how they move money around?

Well it was an online find, but the purchase was just from an LGS that was in Florida that sold it to me over the phone via AmEx. It was a new gun so I was not concerned and from an FFL in that state. He shipped it to my FFL here for $30 and I had it the next day. The point I was making is there are lots of dealers all over the country and sometimes you can find a gun elsewhere at the same or lower price than you can get it local. Sometimes there are specific models you want elsewhere that you just can't find locally even at higher prices. The web page I listed lets you search by specific gun and see what is around. There are both new and used and weapons from dealers and individuals. Obviously, dealing with an individual remotely has its risks. Good luck.

Don't forget the internet. I found my new 686 from a LGS in Florida and even with shipping and FFL fees it was cheaper than I could find in NJ - and they had it in stock. I found it by using armslist.com and then calling the dealer and working out a deal.

I just recently got my first revolver, a nice new 686+ 4" and love it. The thing drive tacks. Handles .357 great, and shooting .38spl feels like you are firing a little .22 cal gun. Highly recommend it. Picked mine up for $729. I have a question for those that were talking about 6 shots for competition. Does that mean you cannot use the 7 shot gun, or that you can only load 6 rounds in it?

I'm not a lawyer, don't play one on TV, and did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but my understanding is that you can possess in your home without it, but to take a long gun off your property you must possess an FID. Obviously for a handgun you have to be in the 0.00001% and have a carry permit or fit one of the exemptions such as taking it directly to or from a range or your place of business that you own. Taking it to a church to sell it is probably a technical violation, but I guess they allow that. Now if you sold it to someone on the street they might throw the book at you for unlawful transport and possession.

They will probably jack up the seller if they sell it to you with illegal possession as they likely have it on their person without having an FID in their name. They will probably jack you up as the buyer with some trumped up charge such as interfering with a police operation - remember this is the People's Republic of New Jersey!!!

The daily record online has a letter entitled "Reducing ammo capacity a waste of time" which is not bad. It can be found at: http://www.dailyrecord.com/article/20130524/NJOPINION02/305240003/Reducing-ammo-capacity-waste-time?nclick_check=1 But there is some Joker named Terry that is actively refuting it. Its time for us to go tear Terry a new one. Please have at it:

^THAT!

Available and normal are all relative terms. Availability in NJ is great right now, because you can buy it over the internet and source from almost any supplier. Assuming NJ passes the new P2P rule to buy ammo we will be limited to purchasing from bricks and mortar stores within the state boundaries. Assuming one does not physically buy it outside the state and possibly break some law by bringing it in, supply will be greatly curtailed which by logic says prices will be higher.

This is a total disgrace. You should write a letter to the editor of your local town paper. Just imagine if the town did this crap with other services. How do you think people would react if they moved into a new house and were told that the water could not be turned on or the trash could not be picked up for three to five months because the town ran out of forms for you to use to sign up? What about if the state told people no income tax refunds for five months because we ran out of blank checks and have to order more and it will take a long time?

WOW! It took me 18 days, I finally got my S&W686+ out of jail on May 18th. Now I have to wait till June 13th till I can even post bond on my S&W performance center 1911 - I wonder how long it will take to get her out of jail. Think she will be able to come home by the 4th of July?

I would go right down to the principal's office with a finger gun and give him hell. This country is going to hell in a hand bag at full warp speed.

eBay could have cared less So, if you go into Staples (or Dicks) you mean they really don't charge sales tax on a safe. Wow that is a surprise.

Sending right now! Let's flood those SOB's. My first two went through but the one to Fuentes keeps dying ***OK, took six tries but the last one finally went through.

Good for you!!!! I have written many but they never seem to want to publish them. When ever I see an anti-gun one I always post a lengthy comment refuting the "facts" that they claim. I highly suggest that you and everyone else does the same. I brought one to people's attention here yesterday and I think about six people here took the time to attack the points the anti made up. We need to keep doing this stuff, because most people are clueless. I was shocked in January when I first applied what you had to go through. Fortunately I live in a town that does things right and got my permits in less than the statutory 30 days. Sorry you had to wait so long. But that said my last nics check took 18 days.

Very nice. New toys are always nice. But please stop talking about these things, its your fault I have a 686-4" (BTW - Thanks I love it)