Howard

The wait was nothing this morning. I did not even get much chance to shoot the breeze with Brad or Anina - maybe 5 minutes tops. PS - I only used ONE pair of glasses!!!!

Don't forget the stupid OGAM on top of that. My new S&W 686+ came in yesterday, but I have to wait ANOTHER freeking 7 days before I can even have them run the 14 day nics. That means I have to impatiently wait another three weeks!

Just don't go up to the counter and say "we" want to buy a gun. Its always I or me!

Seems kind of like a waste. Since for all practical purposes everyone that has an FID also has a photo on their drivers license just require you present both. For the tiny number that don't have drivers licenses have them get a DMV photo ID card. Why create an entirely new process - just more government waste.

Excellent!

Time to go back to High School civics class - a veto over-ride requires a 2/3rds vote which is 66!

I was going to go with the Glock G34, but now that you say you have a .22 cal conversion for the 1911 I will vote for that. For the first time shooter there is no issue of the recoil with the .22 cal, they can concentrate on the basics. Once they get that then move up to the G34.

Let them look. This is not one bad cop looking to jack you up - there are hundreds or maybe thousands out there and they have but one thing they are after.

Or how that if the people in Mass. could freely carry how these guys may have already have been stopped at the 7/11 they robbed and how the cop they killed after that might still be alive.

Interesting concept, but my primary HD weapon would not fit in it, and she would not be happy in there:

Huh? The US Army? Isn't that in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act ?

Treat it as if it is always loaded. Keep your finger away from the trigger unless you want it to go boom. Never point it at anything you don't want to destroy. Do those things and you will be fine.

Why? That would be a great idea - people like Pelosi and Reid would not longer be allowed to speak without taking that class.

Money is money, but all things being equal I have no problem paying a little more to buy it locally. I rather support my local business, and I know if I have a problem they will stand behind it for me. They threat me fairly and don't make a lot of money on the guns they sell. Also, if they don't have something they tell me that I should shop around - which is the right thing to do rather than to make me wait for them to try to find it.

Found a new one at www.armslist.com , and it was even for less than list price!!!

MSNBC and the rest of the libitards are what causes the problems in society that are the root cause of our violence problems.

Vote went 54 for 46 against - BUT it FAILS - Needed 60 votes!

The one problem I see with this is that with the carry laws in NJ the only thing it would be good for is to stuff with tissue paper

1911 ! Way to go. Now all you need is ammo

That is an interesting concept, and maybe not as crazy as you are suggesting. Think about it for a moment. We as gun owners all have FID cards and have gone through a background check. When we go to the range there are many people there that might be as crazy as the night is dark. They go in, sign a few papers and show some ID. They are then handed a weapon and a bunch of ammo. Who knows what they might do once they have that in their hands. Odds are most of them are perfectly normal people, but some may have just left the loony bin. If I were a criminal and needed a quick gun what better way would there to be but to go to a rental counter at a range with some fake ID and get a gun and ammo and make a run (actually a slow walk so as not to be noticed) out the door. The laws are indeed strange. If I rent a gun at the range I don't need an FID to buy ammo, yet if I bring my own gun and want to buy ammo at the range I MUST show my FID - gotta love our laws.

Well I think the consensus here is plastic if just for home defense. A Glock is cheaper than most 1911s and probably more reliable. That said I have a Glock G22 which holds 15+1 rounds of .40 cal ammo. Does not jam and packs just about as much punch as .45 acp. I also have a Kimber 1911 in .45 acp and love it - but the Glock is the HD gun while the Kimber is for fun punching holes in paper at the range. The heavy 1911 does a much better job of controlling recoil as much of it is absorbed by the gun's own mass. Now if it were only legal in NJ, here would be the perfect Glock:

That makes zero sense unless these are truly smart bullets that know not to cut a surgeon when fired by a cop but are able to cut the surgeon when fired by a regular citizen.

Unfortunately most don't see it that way. They view the 2nd as something we don't need - that is why WE need to stand up and support it.

I can't believe the liberals are going this far by committing suicide at our ranges to further their cause.

Problem is they will claim if you take the right to remain silent they will not give you the permit. I ran into this at the first NY Met's game after 9/11. They were searching every car pulling into the parking lot. I politely asked the officer what about my rights against a search without probable cause. He told me that I was 100% correct and that I did not have to agree to the search, in which case they would take no action except to not allow me to enter the parking lot with my car.