Howard

I clean my guns on the deck all time.

What with the weather being so crappy this spring and being busy on weekends with USPSA, IDPA and Steel matches I have not had much time to do any shooting. Finally got out yesterday, and shot some birds:

This is so true. Years ago I worked with a guy that did consulting in the packaging industry and he told me a story about his church had decided to ditch plastic cups for re-usable coffee cups. They thought they were being green. He did a detailed analysis and showed the total cost was much greater in terms of dollars and environmental hard from the re-usable. He detailed how the pollution caused by the soap and wastewater and the fossil fuels burned to heat the water were worse than the impact of the plastic cups and their cost.

They are at it again, another few pennies at a time http://www.nj.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2016/05/using_that_plastic_bag_is_going_to_cost_you_nj_bil.html Notice they now want us to pay for what is free. But they will take some of the money themselves, let stores take some too, and screw the average citizen. Another income redistribution scheme where they exempt Sr. Citizens and those that are already getting income redistribution. This crap has to end.

Just saw this on FB a few minutes ago and was going to share. This state is a total disgrace.

I ordered a couple and they show they shipped already, but anticipated delivery is listed as June13 to June29. I have to conclude these are either being shipped from the moon or they are going across an ocean tied to the fin of a shark to take this long.

You do not need a P2P as someone suggested above. Any gun that is legal to own in NJ that you legally bought elsewhere you can bring into NJ and there is no need to register it.

Looks like it was a pain in the ass, but no one needs those darn cooking alarms

She needs some instruction. This is a clip: These are magazines: Neither one should be used to feed ammo

I was just looking at the point thing for ID as I too need to go in for a new license in-person soon. I found it very interesting they accept your FID card but DO NOT accept your NJ concealed carry permit. I guess they don't want to waste the ink printing about that one since they know they don't really exist.

Take a look at an STI Trojan in 9mm, fairly small grip. I have one and love it.

The courts ruled that the intent of the law was not designed to give permits to people that did not meet qualifications. Thus, they have decided that the 30 day clock does not start when you turn in your application, it only starts once all information is in the hands of the issuing authority. Thus, they should be able to complete it in 1 day once they have everything, but they let them have 30 days. This is NJ where your legal rights go to die.

We were actually very lucky about that. I hear that during the storm in New Orleans they suspended LAW too only they confiscated guns. Kinda surprised that did not happen in the people's republic of New Jermany.

That sucks big time that it took that long. You really should write an article for a newspaper to make this more public. Better be sure to use them quickly, as it sounds like you may likely have trouble getting them extended where you are.

Well I guess we just have to equate this with cars so the idiots on the left can see how stupid this is. Imagine if you would that the law said when you buy a new car that the seat has to be pinned to one position. It will be perfectly legal to have the seat in the all the way forward position or the all the way back position, but you will not be allowed to move it once the dealer sells you the car. So now you will have to buy multiple cars if you are 6'-5" and your wife who is 5'-2" wants to be able to drive as well. You might even have to buy multiple cars if you want to be able to drive in heavy winter gear and also drive in shorts in the summer. Just imagine.

None of it should be illegal !!!!

So I was shooting a USPSA match this weekend and a friend from PA was there shooting and brought his seven year old to watch the match. The boy asked his dad "why do we have to pin the stocks on our rifle when we come to NJ?" My friend started to try to explain it in terms that a seven year old would understand, but could not. His son astutely asked why if you can have one at minimum length and another at maximum length do you need to lock it in place. Perhaps we should pose that exact question to our lawmakers in the NJ and get them to explain the logic of this law and how this does anything to help anything at all. Laws should be such that a father can explain them to his seven year old son.

Stu, I like the way you think. Unfortunately since there is no paper trail for the state to see COE transfers bitch Loretta would never know about it so no opportunity to piss her off

I think you were trying to say not legal, but that is why I used the word "effectively", as that is what I understand that FSS does and they do that legally.

No for the handguns! You could do a transfer of the long guns with a COE where you effectively "buy" them and then "sell" them back later.

So, if this thing passes does it kill our new enumerated right to get gas and take a leak or just the right to apply for a permit to carry?

I am so not impressed with NJ legislators. I wrote an email this morning to urge voting down that attack on Christie's executive order and here is one of the "replies" I got back: Your message To: Whelan, Sen. D.O. Subject: Please Vote against SCR101 Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 7:30:47 AM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada) was deleted without being read on Thursday, May 5, 2016 10:51:22 AM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada).

Well Dave, I am with you on most things - but not sure I can join your camp here. As you say you are not a lawyer, and I am not one either. My experience in business is when you hire an expert to get their professional opinion you should be listening to their opinion, otherwise you are wasting your money. We have seen in this thread several instances of lawyers who presumably know their trade telling us that case law says you should not have loaded magazines. That is enough for me. Why go through the risk when the experts say not to? There are million and millions of pages of case law that actually define our laws above and beyond the legal code. It would probably take any of us years to go through things, but they are saying it is there and they are gun rights lawyers. This is really such a trivial thing that I don't want to risk being that one test case. Sure I might win, but I might not - the risk is just not worth the reward. Unfortunately that is just the way our laws work. I can actually see the logic behind not having loaded mags allowed. As you know the general rule is no ammo at a safe table. But at least one shooting discipline sets the rule that the ammo must only be more than one step away from the gun. That means that you can have ammo in a case or box on the safe table, but no loose ammo on the table. It also means that you cannot have a loaded magazine on the table. I can understand how a court could interpret a loaded magazine as being only one step from the gun and have ruled that they consider it equivalent to having a loaded gun. That is no different than the law that unlocked guns and ammo should not be in the same container. Thus, out of reasonable prudence I'll opt to not drive around with loaded magazines in the People's Republic of New Jermany as the slight inconvenience if you really consider it as such is not worth the potential risk.

I am too, he is wrong though - nothing you can do just sell it to me for $250 and make a profit and be done with it All kidding aside, very easy to fix. If you don't think you have the skills take him up on his offer. Glocks are simple to work on with very few parts. All you need is a few bucks in parts and about five minutes to make this much much better.