Howard

Bob, don't get me wrong, I think it is great that new people are asking these questions. The problem I have is that this sort of thread continually has misinformation. I would think it better to when these come up that they be locked and redirected to a FAQ that has the correct information. That would serve new shooters much better than getting often misleading advice.

So has anyone found a place that has magazines, mag pouches and holsters available and in-stock for the G43?

Why do we do this over and over and over and over again. I think the mods should immediately kill all threads about NJ gun law and redirect them to the actual law. There is so much bad information both here and other places about what the law is. ARGH!!!!

I believe Dave is correct. It takes about moving, it does not say anything about a permanent move like selling a home and buying another gone. When you go from one home to another (or a third) you are moving, albeit temporarily. The issue is that you still must follow transport laws which means you must take the shortest (Time? Miles? who knows) route with no unreasonable deviation. Unreasonable, we all know, means what a judge decides when your hearing comes up

But wait, what difference does it make. Don't you voluntarily submit payment to NJ your 7% use tax for any purchase you may make anywhere where they don't collect sales tax?

While the above might be true for certain things it is not that limited. For instance if you move into a new home (or apartment) and it is your only domicile it is your home immediately - unless you are saying the state has determined by law that you are officially homeless for the next 30 days.

Well Amazon opened a warehouse in NJ, and now must collect NJ sales tax as they have a physical presence in NJ - but this only applies to stuff from Amazon directly not from their affiliated merchants if they don't have operations in NJ. Don't know about how eBay handles this.

Glad you guys enjoyed the match. The next one will be at its normal time which is the first Sunday of the money - May 3rd this time around. Registration opens the normal second monday before the match at 7pm (April 20th this go around). The link is: http://shootnscoreit.com/idpa/match/687/ For those of you that want to try other IDPA matches, I would highly recommend the large outdoor matches that take place at both Old Bridge Rifle and Pistol, and Easton Fish and Game. Old Bridge is the second sunday of the month and I believe Easton is on the fourth sunday of the month. Registration for Old Bridge is done on Practiscore and Easton is on Shootnscoreit.

Yup, it's the little stainless gun that is dangerous not the big black scary gun in this law, other times its the big black scary gun. Gotta love our messed up feel good do nothing gun laws.

Well let's see. Handguns are strictly illegal in New Jermany; except by specific exemption. Those exemptions include your residence, a legal range, and your place of business. I believe there are further conditions on your place of business something to the effect that you own it. I don't see any exemption that says your neighbor's home; with or without their permission.

^^^^^NO! If you take your pistol to your neighbors house, even if he says its OK, you are now a felon in NJ. You are confusing New Jermany with a free state.

If it is empty now just have her give you a lease (even if for $1) and it is your second home as soon as you have that lease.

You need to provide a little more info. You say you are going to live there and are taking it over from a family member. Are you going to be renting or are you buying or being given the house? What exactly is the houses status now? If the other person still owns it just have them fill out a lease that given you the right to live there right now if they agree to it. You are allowed to have more than one home, and transport between them. There are many millionaires with guns in this state that have homes up north and down at the shore. As for the hollow points, the law is screwed up. I guess you have to drive your hollow points from home one to the range and then from there to the new home to get them there. I guess you could also call UPS for a pickup and ship the ammo from the old house to the new one.

When I first started out I was anal about cleaning my guns, now not some much; especially my Glocks. But I have used the above mentioned brake cleaner with great results when I needed to clean out the firing pin channel.

Hey, I don't have a problem with anyone dumping as much lead as they want in their backyard, I was just trying to say that it could be an issue down the road. I also don't buy your opinion that it is not a potential problem, as the CDC study below of a brand new shooting range demonstrates based on measurements. Will it likely be a problem for someone shooting in their backyard, probably not - but it's best to have the facts before you decide to take that step. The issue with septic tanks is an issue, that is why sewers are so much better than using your property as a waste site with a septic tank http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/acclpp/SupplementalOct04/Lead%20Contamination%20in%20Shooting%20Range%20Soils-Hardison.pdf ============================================================ Abstract: Contamination of shooting range soils from the use of Pb bullets is under increasing scrutiny. Past research on Pb contamination of shooting ranges has focused on weathering reactions of Pb bullets in soil. The objective of this study was to determine the significance of abrasion of Pb bullets in contributing to soil Pb contamination. This was accomplished by firing a known mass of bullets into sand and analyzing for total Pb after removing bullets, through field sampling of a newly opened shooting range, and a laboratory weathering study. Forty-one mg of Pb were abraded per bullet as it passed through the sand, which accounted for 1.5% of the bullet mass being physically removed. At a shooting range that had been open for 3 months, the highest Pb concentration from the pistol range berm soil was 193 mg/kg at 0.5 m height, and from the rifle range berm soil was 1142 mg/kg at 1.0 m height. Most soils from the field abrasion experiment as well as soil collected from the rifle range had SPLP-Pb > 15 t-Lg/I (Synthetic Precipitation Leaching Procedure). Typically, Pb concentration in the rifle range was greater than that of the pistol range. Based on a laboratory weathering study, virtually all metallic Pb was converted to hydrocerussite (Pb3(C03 )2(OH)2), as well as to a lesser extent cerussite (PbC03 ) and massicot (PbO) within one week. Our study demonstrated that abrasion of lead bullets and their subsequent weathering can be a significant source of lead contamination in soils of a newly opened shooting range. ============================================ Conclusions: This study demonstrated that physical abrasion of Pb bullets passing through soil contributes substantially to soil Pb contamination in shooting ranges. The O.22-caliber bullet used in the field abrasion experiment is the smallest caliber that is typically used in shooting ranges. An increase in Pb contamination in the form of physical abrasion , would probably result from an increase in the size of caliber. This would be due to an increase in surface area of the bullet that is susceptible to physical abrasion as it passes through soil, as well as the fact that higher caliber rounds travel at higher velocities resulting in an increase in friction. This fine form of metallic Pb is rapidly converted to Pb-minerals, and may pose a risk to groundwater contamination in shooting range soils. Our research has demonstrated that Pb contamination (elevation of Pb concentrations in soils) as well as Pb transformation (from inert metallic Pb to more reactive Pb compounds) in shooting range soils occurs rapidly in newly opened ranges. Therefore, it is important to develop best management practice to minimize the adverse impacts of Pb in all shooting ranges regardless of their ages.

I believe I was told that either DEP or OSHA was doing a routine inspection and was concerned that the lead contaminated wipes might be going into the regular garbage. At Old Bridge Rifle & Pistol they have been forced by OSHA to read lead warnings to all participants each time they shoot a match and then sign a waiver at each match (that might be the club covering their ass). I don't get why OSHA has anything to do with shooters at an event who I would consider customers not employees, since OSHA is chartered to protect workers only.

I think some are misunderstanding what I am trying to say. I have no personal issue with it, the only issue is the way environmental laws are going I can see this becoming an issue down the road. That said, why risk it? While Deerslayer is correct about lead in piping today, that too could change. You do realize that asbestos was routinely used as pipe insulation for year and years. Try to sell a property that has it today, you will not be a happy camper. About 25 years ago I put a big addition on my house and had the contractor reside the entire house so that everything would match. I had him remove all the existing asbestos siding rather than just put the new stuff on top of it. He thought I was crazy, I had a feeling it would become an issue down the road; and today asbestos siding is an issue in selling a home. Hey, if you want to fill your property with heavy metal, more power to you - no one is stopping you today. It just seems like an imprudent risk the way are rules are going.

Hardly the same thing, and you are being quite silly. You might not like what I am saying, but it is a path we are very likely to go down. Lead is a proven health hazard. It has been removed from gasoline and paint due to those known health hazards. It is not a leap to speculate that it's presence in the soil will some day soon become a big problem in property transfers. Just think about other common things like underground fuel tanks, and what has to be done to sell a house that has one. Or consider if you have lead paint on windows and want to replace them. It is only prudent to imagine what might happen some day when you are talking about materials that are known toxics that already have serious environmental regulations. Things have gotten so crazy with lead that the government has come into a range I frequent and made an issue of what happens with the wipes the gunsmith uses when cleaning guns. It really is not a matter at this of if, its a matter of when regulations will clamp down even more than they already have.

I think we get it from the same place we get asbestos. That has nothing to do with anything. There were chemical companies that dumped lots of stuff in NJ in the 50's and 60's and much of that was legal then, or even if not legal was a slap on the wrist type of thing. Those companies, if not sued out of business today have been forced to pay hundreds of millions to clean up what was once not considered a major problem. That is all that I am saying, it is probably not prudent to fill your property with lead. Just because it might not be a major issue today, I would venture to guess within 10 to 20 years it will come back to bite you.

I think you guys are missing the point about the lead. First, while animals may flourish right now where there is lead; we all know that lead exposure has long-term impacts - but even that was not the issue. The point is that while there may not be any laws right now, there is a high probability there will be in the future. Just like people never thought they would have a problem with lead paint or asbestos, think about what you need to do about remediate if you try to sell a home today that has either one. I would not think it a good idea to be spraying lead all over your property, it will likely bite you down the road.

This is NJ shooting in your backyard is probably a really bad idea, but not because of any hatred of guns. Think about all the lead that you are depositing on your property. One day you will go to sell your house and someone will do an inspection and by that time there will be some new crazy rule and because they found heavy metal your property will now be classified a Super Fund hazardous waste site and you will have to spend millions to clean up the site.

Thank you very much Adam, glad you guys enjoyed the match. Results are up at https://practiscore.com/results.php?uuid=dc7ead75-263e-4f36-9db9-de9f7270d7dd

What is this "revolver" thing you speak of Actually we had one last month!

That must have been very cool watching that at night from your room.

Since it's on range 2 it will probably be about 13-14 yards. Basically whatever the maximum is we can safely accommodate in front of the ports.