Howard

Don't know about that, I used to have Jeep and played golf - I have since given them both up

Interesting as they explicitly say not to use the photo on your passport and not to use the photo from you existing Utah permit.

On the web application there is a section for you to upload a Jpg photo and then you crop it on the web. Super easy. You might want to renew early if you can to save $10 since it goes up July 1st.

I have to say I am very impressed with the renewal process for Utah. Back when I got the permit, almost 5 years ago, the instructor here in NJ told us all to mark the date in our calendars on our phones so that we could arrange to renew as they did not send out any notice. I believe they said we would have to resubmit prints and a picture. Well the reminder popped up on my phone a couple of days ago, and I was debating what to do. Since I am moving to Florida soon I was tempted to just let it expire and be done with it. Well I got a letter in the mail from the Utah Department of Public Safety today reminding me that it was going to expire in a little over a month and telling me exactly what to do to renew. I could even do it over the internet (which I did) but it was going to cost me $0.75 extra for the processing of the $15 fee - like that is an issue. It also said on July 1 the fee will increase to $20 for residents and $25 for non-residents. The entire process took me about five minutes to do online, including using my phone to include a new picture of myself. They said I should have the new one in 2-4 weeks.

Be thankful if a scam this is a cheap one. Much better than the one where they slam their brakes on so you crash into them and then sue for whiplash and all sorts of other stuff. If these people just put as much effort into honest work they would be much better off.

Agreed about reporting. I had two issues over the years, one in a parking lot the other in town. I immediately went to my Statefarm agent and gave them all the details telling them I did not want to make a claim but wanted them to have it on record if anything ever became of it. In both cases nothing was ever perused and it has no impacts on rates.

Counter sue them for $10,000,000 for emotional distress, your wife's long standing neck pain and anything else you can throw at them

Oh I would not be so sure of that, many of us that are fleeing are doing so because of the left wing crap and we will help maintain those states as free states. I know my wife and I will when we escape to Florida next month.

I would think the courts would overturn it if it had that effect. I believe they did the same with sex offender laws that effectively barred them from living in a given town with such a large exclusion area.

Thanks, I have done the trip to Charlotte NC that way - very nice country side. Don't know if my wife is up for driving all the way to SC or not. Likely she will drive her car with one dog and I will have mine with the other two dogs.

Thanks! I know FL only requires rear plates on cars. If I put black tape over the state name do you think I can keep my two plates in my sig below on each car.

My wife will love no written test, she was dreading that. Just last night we went into NYC and parked about 18 feet from a fire hydrant and of course neither one of us could remember what the required distance was for that. So, out came the phone to check on Google - BTW it is 15 feet

Well that is true, I am up in North Jersey. I don't have the map open but I would guess 45 minutes would be able 45 miles or close enough for an estimate.

Not as much detour as you might think. Right now Google shows it as 15:28 on 81 versus 14:43 on I95. So we are talking about 45 minutes but it is a much nicer drive.

78 west to Harrisburg then 81 South, then 77 South Carolina then hook up with 95 I am assuming.

Well northern FL is not hot hot hot like Miami, it is just hot Tax laws are better there than Tennessee too. But I guess bottom line is one should move to a place they will like as gun, tax and all other laws are always subject to change. Rest assured we will always vote the correct way, I wonder if I can get my three Huskies to vote too

Thanks! I will be sure to get in touch with you when we get down there, maybe even before if I make a trip down to find a rental. That was great info about the Tax assessor rather than DMV - like any sane person that is one place I try to avoid at all cost. Does that mean you don't have to take a written test to convert your license, or they also give one at the Tax office? Does that everyone in the car must have a permit only apply if the gun is in the console or do only you need on if it is actually on your person? I ask cause there is no way in hell my wife would even get a permit or even touch a gun

WOW 36 hours that is great! Definitely 81, even it was not for the guns. Have done the trip that way down to Charlotte NC, you are right very nice way to go. I am certain even though the trip is about 15 hours there is no way we will do it without stopping as my wife will drive one car and I'll drive the other plus we have the three huskies in the car. So, we will have to find (ahead of time) a hotel that will accept us with the three dogs. Well perhaps one of us registers with one dog and the other later brings the other two

As many of you know in a little over a month I will become a NJ Escapee, the house is under contract and I will be making my way down to Northern Florida – Jacksonville area. While I love our home, where we live, and friends here in the socialist people’s republic of New Jermany; the balance has been tipped by my hate for property taxes, income taxes, left wing social policies and of course gun laws here. So a few questions for those of you familiar with the process of fleeing and laws in Florida: What concerns if any do I have for transporting my gear to Florida. Am planning on driving some and putting other stuff in a Pod. What if any of my currently NJ Legal gear (as of this date) might not be legal in Florida? Think this is a non-issue but just want to be sure. Do I need to register any of my toys in Florida? What issues do I need to be aware of if I don’t yet have a Florida Carry Permit ( transport or possession issues) I plan to rent a house for some time till we figure exactly where we want to be and build a house. Are there any stupid laws there like if I get a carry permit at the rental that I have to start from scratch when I move or is it a simple change of address form not the BS like for NJ FID when you move across the street you have to apply from scratch? What other issues should I be thinking about for the move? I have not moved in over 30 years so there probably are many issues I am not aware of and need to be thinking about. Thanks

Nice try, but don't think that would fly.

There is no way the IRS will let this crap stand. IF you live in a Blue state and try this you will get audited. This is a sham transaction and you will likely pay penalties out the ass. You can only deduct charitable contributions less the economic benefit you gain by them. Thus if you go to a sporting event as part of a charitable donation you must reduce your donation by the fair market value of the tickets you received. In this case you would have to reduce your sham charity deduction by the amount of your property taxes - you now effectively get almost zero deduction, you can only claim the 10% extra the state charged you for this sham transaction. Nice try Libitard gov.

Here is the full article: ‘My Clients Are Fleeing NJ Like It’s on Fire’ After tax reform, a stampede from high-tax states. New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy speaks at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, N.J. last Wednesday. PHOTO: PATTI SAPONE/ASSOCIATED PRESS By James Freeman May 2, 2018 3:32 p.m. ET 1147 COMMENTS That headline arrives via email from a money manager in northern New Jersey. The Garden State already has the third largest overall tax burden and the country’s highest property tax collections per capita. Now that federal reform has limited the deduction for state and local taxes, the price of government is surging again among high-income earners in New Jersey and other blue states. Taxpayers are searching for the exits. In the financial industry of course it’s not just the clients who are looking for greener pastures. One hedge fund manager moving his office to a southern state reports that his new home on a golf course will be more than double the size of his house in Chatham, N.J. while generating just one third of the current property tax bill. Others are staying out of necessity, but that doesn’t mean they want to bet on a Jersey comeback. “The apartment market in New Jersey is booming because nobody wants to own here. As soon as people are not tied to the area for business reasons, they leave,” says Jeffrey Sica, founder of Circle Squared, an alternative investments firm. “We structure real estate deals for family offices and high-net-worth individuals and at a record pace those family offices and individuals are leaving the TriState for lower-tax states. Probably a dozen this year at least,” he writes via email. On April 24, Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore wrote in these pages: In the years to come, millions of people, thousands of businesses, and tens of billions of dollars of net income will flee high-tax blue states for low-tax red states. Just one week later, the Journal reports: One of the oldest names on Wall Street is moving to one of the fastest-growing cities in the South, reinforcing a recent shift in finance jobs to cheaper parts of the U.S. AllianceBernstein Holding LP plans to relocate its headquarters, chief executive and most of its New York staff to Nashville, Tenn., in an attempt to cut costs, according to people familiar with the matter. That largely ends a 51-year presence in the nation’s traditional finance capital... In a memo to employees, AllianceBernstein cited lower state, city and property taxes compared with the New York metropolitan area among the reasons for the relocation. In the decade ending in 2016, real economic growth in New Jersey clocked in at a compound annual percentage rate of 0.1, just slightly higher than John Blutarsky’s GPA and less than a tenth of the national average for economic growth. The Tax Foundation ranks New Jersey dead last among the 50 states for its business tax climate. So naturally new Governor Phil Murphy is proposing an even larger tax burden. A little more than 100 days into his term, Mr. Murphy seems determined to make New Jersey residents miss Chris Christie. Steven Malanga calls Mr. Murphy’s plan “the U-Haul Budget” for the new incentives it gives New Jersey residents to flee. Your humble correspondent participated in a panel discussion at an event hosted by the Garden State Initiative today and was pleased to discover that at least some residents of New Jersey are not yet ready to abandon hope. They’re urging Gov. Murphy to make the state’s tax burden competitive again. Following federal reform, the residents who remain in blue states have a whole new reason to demand that politicians put out the fire.

Thanks. Jacksonville area, not exactly sure where. Guess we will be homeless for a while

It amazes me what a big deal so many people are making of the SALT deduction change. Yea it caps those deductions, but with the higher standard deduction an awful lot of people that think they will be itemizing will actually be taking the standard deduction which does not let you deduct any of those state and local taxes. Further, even with the loss of the deductions that tax rates are all lower by about 2% points across the board. Even in the socialist people's republic of New Jermany a majority of people will be paying the same or less in Federal taxes than before the changes. The good thing is this change should put pressure of the leftists in Trenton to do something to reduce taxes or the exodus will continue. I have never seen more houses for than this year. I just accepted a contract on mine and can't wait to get the hell out of this state.

De-Escalation, really? The officer should be the one teaching the course - he did an exemplary job of keeping his cool. I cannot imaging being in his shoes and staying as calm as he did. I would have had her in cuffs or worse.