wooly bugger

There are two problems. One, there's no way to guarantee a clean kill when shooting a machine gun from a helicopter. Like I said, no doubt some were gut shot. I appreciate him donating the meat (sorry missed that in my first post. Feel free to hold me up for public ridicule) but I'll pass on gut shot meat that's been baking in the sun for however long. Second, don't call it hunting. Third, as a public figure who is ostensibly trying to help us, it makes us look like bloodthirsty idiots and belies what we say about the "thrill being in the hunt," and "showing respect for the quarry." For the record, I like Uncle Ted (throwing hate? what are you, like 16 years old, homie?) His hunting ethics have been questioned before, vis his penchant for high fence pen shoots. But this is a free country, and I can respect people I disagree with.

+1. It's extremely hard to get involuntarily committed. And even if you do, and you followed the other rules above, they won't know you have guns and realistically aren't going to go to every FFL to search for your name on their books. I've never seen a psychiatrist even consider getting someone committed as part of a personal vendetta, and believe me, they run into plenty of hateful people. Other than professional integrity, it just wouldn't work and would backfire on them professionally.

I don't understand why you would leave them laying around the yard (or in a Newark basement) during Sandy, or on your tragically fated boat. which happened to collide with mine a couple of months ago. If, God forbid, a gun you sold ends up in a crime and is traced back to you, you'll be damned glad to have that COE. I keep mine in my safe and keep a scanned file on my computer. The ones from my purchases, I don't care about.

In preparation for doomsday, I just picked up 600 rounds of .30-06 from the CMP. After I decide whether to stick with the Greek or if I'm willing to pay more for Hornady, I'll be putting in another order for double that.

Maybe, but they're not anti gun safe. That's where I got mine. Maybe they're selling them to protect the children. See my avatar.

"Common sense" (or "sensible" for the terse) = what's on the books today, plus just a little more. Repeat.

I'm sorry to play contrarian, but that's just bad publicity for both hunters and gun owners. And that's not hunting, it's extreme culling. I know he's into high fence hunting, but machine guns from helicopter? Come on. There's plenty of people who will pay good money to actually hunt those pigs and will make clean kills and use the meat. Think how many of those pigs were gut shot and left to die slow, lingering deaths then left to rot.

That's going to be tough. The easier and more realistic thing is to wake up all your complacent gun owner friends who aren't doing anything about it. It's amazing how many there are.

There's plenty of guns. Just not certain kinds. I've got one waiting for me at the FFL (M1 Garand) and one on its way (Mosin-Nagant M44.) If it's really 1000+ checks, then that just warms my heart, and I'll gladly wait until that situation rectifies itself. Do the math. That's 1/3 of a million guns a year. In the hands of law abiding owners, some of which may not take kindly to having them taken away.

Good. I'm one of them, but glad it seems to be accelerating.

He is a lot less concerned than we are. First, they have a lot more the 3 or 4 people working on it. They are 1600 behind. But he said the person in charge is the system was in his shop a couple of days ago, and they're working on fixing it. He thinks we'll get back to instant in the not too distant future. Ok, pile on with the negative comment.

I've only been here a short time, so I don't know, but has there been a big acceleration in new members?

My Garand just shipped today!!

I'm also waiting 2 months. My ammo shipped but not the rifle.

Got in on one. Now just need to find some ammo...

There is accountability at every step. Manufacturer to distributor to dealer to individual. Then every private sale generates a COE. So police can trace a gun by serial number. This is a good argument against registration.

Don't underestimate the passion gap. How many of those polled as wanting more gun control are going to spend 100+ hours on a mission to destroy a pro-gun politician?

Those polls are petty much worthless, as evidenced by the wide spread across different polls. It's all in the wording. Same with the gun ownership. What would you respond if some stranger called you and asked if you have any nice guns laying around the house?

I hear there's an elusive group of women with a fetish for balding, slightly overweight Jews from Cherry Hill :-)

Here are good pages of bogus quote and one with confirmed ones: Bogus http://saf.org/pub/rkba/general/BogusFounderQuotes.htm http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndbog.html Real http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndfqu.html The one that really bothers me is the "liberty teeth" one. Especially the 99.9% part. Come on, the founders didn't talk like that. Sticky?

Given the situation, I thought I'd buy first and second guess later, pending responses to my post above. They're back out of stock :-(. I'm bookmarking the page and will be checking back regularly.

Is this a high quality receiver? I've been told there's not much variation in quality. True? EDIT: I posted this in time panic. I've now spent five minutes doing research, and they seem to come pretty well recommended. Here's a good thread. http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=8&f=34&t=428632

So he's basically telling you he's planning to be a gouger? And he thinks all the LGS's will go along with it?

My favorite gun commercial of any kind is this one: A fragment of it appears in a lot of my browser windows, but watch the whole thing. Note the KIA bracelet. If that doesn't appeal to you, there's always this:

Great article. My only quibble is that he uses a couple of debunked quotes. The "lambs and two wolves" quote is very clever but has never been attributed to Franklin. "Lunch" is an anachronism, which didn't appear anywhere until the 1820s. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin And the Washington "Liberty Teeth," is also a fabrication.