maintenanceguy

The reason Trump is a win for me is the Supreme Court. Hopefully, we will get two new justices in the next 8 years and I really need Trump to hold on long enough to make the appointments. Moving two liberals off of the court and two conservatives on changes America for the next couple of generations. It's very possible that those appointments won't be quite conservative enough for my liking but they will be better than what we have now. So, I will tolerate the childish tweeting, poor communication skills, and other issues. Frankly, he's done several things that have pleased me. He's done a few that I didn't care for. I didn't vote for him in the primaries but he is better than the alternative would have been. Trump 2020!

Trump simply isn't a gun guy. He doesn't know anyone who is and has never been exposed to people who value gun ownership. He feels about gun rights the same way I feel about comic-con. It doesn't bother me but it's a little strange and unnecessary. He showed up at the NRA convention to get the votes from a few gun nuts but with 5 million members, he figured it was a pretty tiny voting block. If 50% showed up, he might get 2-1/2 million votes across the whole country so it was worth the 20 minute stop but not critical. Supporting banning guns won't be a big deal - he thought. His advisors had probably mentioned that he shouldn't support gun control but he didn't really believe it. It's a non issue for him so if the democrats want gun control, he figured he should support it. He can trade it for something he wants. Besides, only a few toothless rednecks actually care about the issue - or he thought. As soon as he heard the outcry, he backed off. But, he still doesn't really get it. So he will continue to fumble the ball because he just can't wrap his head around the fact that there are a lot of Americans who actually care about this stuff and that a huge chunk of his voting block does.

I've never flown with a firearm. NJ doesn't care about the bullet button or normal mag release. NJ says it can only have a 15 round mag (10 round coming soon) and you can have one "evil feature" from the list below: pistol grip adjustable stock bayonet mount flash hider grenade launcher (not kidding) So, you keep the pistol grip - that's your evil feature You drill a hole through the stock and put a roll pin in the hole so it can't move any more you grind off the lugs on the bayonet mount under the gas block You have a muzzle brake permanently installed (welded or pinned and welded - if you own a flash suppressor and it could be installed because the muzzle brake isn't welded, that's also a crime) you don't buy a grenade launcher. The rules can be found here: http:///themaintenanceguy.com/gfimages/definition-nj-assault-weapons.pdf

The statute and administrative code don't say what course of fire is required. I called the NJSP Firearms Investigation Unit and talked to the guy who does the approvals (or denials). The statute requires that the applicant demonstrate familiarity with a handgun. The administrative code lists 4 methods of proving "familiarity" with handguns. I called to find out exactly what was required. More info about my conversation with the NJSP here: Since it doesn't seem that there is a specific, required course of fire, I figured the NRA Marksmanship qualification would be as good as any.

I intend to apply and be denied for my NJ carry permit. I don't have a local PD and have to apply to the NJSP. I talked to the NJSP Firearms Investigation Unit and they require that qualification scores be submitted with the application. They did not seem to know what specific course of fire was required but said the regular NRA course of fire would be fine. There really is no "regular NRA course of fire" for this. I have taken classes where I had to shoot and I had to qualify to become an NRA instructor but I don't have scores on paper in any format that I could submit. I would like to shoot the NRA Marksmanship Qualification and need another NRA instructor sign off. I figured that, if there was another NRA instructor interested in the same thing, we could meet at your range or mine and spend half a day qualifying each other.

Ronald Regan announced the "star wars" defense program. We were building a network of satellites that could take out other satellites if needed. If we had such a technology, why would we have announced it? That's the sort of thing you keep in your back pocket until it's needed. Russia spent a lot of resources building defenses against a system we never built. Some credit that with contributing to the financial collapse of the USSR. If Russia has technology we didn't know they had, why announce it?

Automatic firearms were used by Al Capone's gangsters to kill rival gang members in the Valentines Day Murders in the late 20's or early 30's. I don't know how much automatic firearms were actually used by gangs but that one murder was big news and lead to the passage of the firearms control act of 1934 which made it very hard to get automatic firearms.

Nothing to it. Clamp it in a vice between a couple of pieces of wood and saw carefully with a hacksaw. Debur with a fine half-round file and you're good to go. But...if you buy a a slug barrel, that makes your gun capable of double duty.

The "don't give an inch" is inaccurate. I'd say "don't give another inch to the mile we've already given". Before the gun control act of 1934, gun control act of 1968, hughes amendment, and all of the hundreds of little gun control laws passed in the last 50 years, Americans right to keep and bear arms was not infringed. Any American who can be trusted with a shotgun, automobile, kitchen knife, or baseball bat can be trusted with a firearm of any type. Civilians should be able to purchase automatic firearms because Americans have proven themselves to be trustworthy. Once in American history did someone use a device like this to commit a crime. It's also impossible to put engineering and technology back in the bottle once it's released. Make bump stocks illegal and that one bad guy who wants to use one will make his own. The other 359,999,999 Americans wouldn't with or without such an device. Banning has no effect on crime.

I'm not moving to FL, NC, SC, NV, PA, or AZ. That's where NJ residents move most often. We're going to ruin those states too.

I hadn't but I just looked up some info on it. Same velocity as the 300WSM, more energy, but also less guns made in this caliber.

I'm sure you're right, but why? I get the 6.5 Creedmore is a lighter round and has less recoil, but why is Winmag better for long distance?

I'm interested in delving into longer range shooting. I own several rifles in different calibers but nothing made to reach very far. I have done a lot of research and I think I'm settled on a .300 WSM. But, I'm not 100% sure just because it's not nearly as common as many other cartridges typically used for longer range shooting. If it really was the best option, I think I'd hear of more people using it. I'm hoping someone can either confirm my thinking or show me where I'm wrong. Don't be shy, my skin is thick. Here's a comparison between the WSM, WMag and a couple of other rounds. First, the WSM is faster. That means less bullet drop. It also has more energy then most of the more common longer range rounds. Now, comparing only the Win Mag to the Win Short Mag: If we randomly pick 500yds to compare the two, the WSM velocity is 40% faster, the energy is nearly double, and the wind drift (at 10mph cross wind) is half of the wind drift for the Win Mag. It seems like the better round but since it's not very common, I must be missing something. A good round should be a popular round. School me.

When Everytown for Gun Safety calls to complain, the best plan is to do just shut up and do nothing. The media and the public gets bored quickly. Trans-bathrooms, pink hats, #metoo, NRA bashing...we'll be on to some new news focus in 2 weeks. Seems like these companies could have waited it out for that long.

I've emailed Ruger a couple of times over the last few years to suggest a NJ compliant model. Checked the spec sheets today, they still say 50oz. NJ's law says a "manufactured weight" under 50 oz. I assume that it could be converted with someone with a manufacturer's license but that would make it an awfully expensive gun.

I really don't think the detective that reviews applications knew either. To pass the NRA basic pistol course, you have to shoot a qualifier at the end of the course. The three achievement levels are called red, white, and blue. You have to successfully achieve the red (easiest) level to pass the basic pistol class. Note: everybody who actually puts in any effort passes the class. Qualification for Level 1: Red is four five shot groups within the four-inch circle at 10 feet. Qualification for Level 2: White is four five shot groups within the four-inch circle at 15 feet. Qualification for Level 3: Blue is four five shot groups within the four-inch circle at 20 feet. The NRA also has a marksmanship qualification program where you can achieve several different levels from "basic" through "distinguished expert".

I got some more information about submitting applications. Sorry in advance for the long post to come. I picked up applications and spoke to a couple of troopers who were able to answer my questions. I picked up my carry permits this morning from the Bridgeton trooper barracks. The trooper who handles the firearm applications came out into the lobby to go over the requirements with me. He first mentioned justifiable need. I told him I was aware of that requirement. He asked if I had justifiable need. I told him I hadn't decided what I was going to include in my letter of need yet. We moved onto the next topic. Forms filled out in triplicate, three references, all copies notarized, fingerprinting needs to be scheduled, fill out mental health form but don't sign until I come back with packet completed. No surprises so far. Then he mentioned that I needed to include my qualification scores with the application. I mentioned that the NJ Admin. Code. allows 4 methods to meet the requirement for being "thoroughly familiar" with firearms and qualification scores are one of the four. Can I use one of the other three? He wasn't really sure so gave me the phone number to the Firearms Investigation Unit in Trenton. I thanked him and left for work. Later, I called the Firearms Unit. The woman who answered the phone wasn't sure of the answer to my question but she did explain a couple of details. The local barracks does the criminal background check, the mental health check, and the reference check. The packet is then sent to Trenton for approval or denial. When denied (she said "if"), it gets sent to the Superior Court in your county. A court date will be scheduled and you get to talk to the judge. She said that the whole process takes 4 to 6 months. She then transferred me to one of the detectives in the unit who processes these applications. I asked the detective about needing to submit qualification scores. He said that I did need to do that. I asked about the other 3 methods of demonstrating "thorough familiarity" that are in the administrative code. He said that I could use any of those methods but needed to submit the scores that went along with each method. I'm not sure he was completely familiar with what I was asking but that's not the fight I'm looking for - so I'll submit scores. I asked what course of fire was required. He recommended that I find an NRA instructor who does the qualification shoot. I told him I was an NRA instructor but didn't know which course of fire was required. He said that "the" NRA course of fire is sufficient. Although he never said so, I don't think it really matters what course of fire is submitted. I got the feeling that he just needs some number on a piece of paper with an NRA instructor's signature so that he can check off that box as completed. I definitely don't think there is one prescribed course of fire for non-leo applicants. As always when dealing with the NJSP, everyone I spoke to was helpful, professional, and respectful.

First Steps is a "course... in the safe handling of a handgun administered by a... certified firearms instructor of the National Rifle Association" It looks like it would count.

NJAC 13:54-2.4 (b) Application for a permit to carry a handgun Each applicant shall demonstrate a thorough familiarity with the safe handling and use of handguns by indicating in the space provided therefor on the application form, and on any sworn attachments thereto, any relevant information. Thorough familiarity with the safe handling and use of handguns may be evidenced by: 1. Completion of a firearms training course substantially equivalent to the firearms training approved by the Police Training Commission as described by N.J.S.A. 2C:39-6j; 2. Submission of an applicant's most recent handgun qualification scores utilizing the handgun(s) he or she intends to carry as evidenced by test firings administered by a certified firearms instructor of a police academy, a certified firearms instructor of the National Rifle Association, or any other recognized certified firearms instructor; 3. Completion of a course or test in the safe handling of a handgun administered by a certified firearms instructor of a police academy, a certified firearms instructor of the National Rifle Association, or any other recognized certified firearms instructor; or 4. Passage of any test in this State's laws governing the use of force administered by a certified instructor of a police academy, a certified instructor of the National Rifle Association, or any other recognized certified instructor. Since there is an "or" between #3 and #4, I'm interpreting this to mean that you need only 1 of these 4 things to qualify.

What other constitutional right is restricted to those over 21? Voting? Right to assemble? Abortion? Speaking freely? Imagine if someone tried to limit the speech of the kids holding rallies from the Florida High School because they weren't 21 yet. I say no way. The NRA came out and supported a bump stock ban before it was even being proposed so I suspect they'll jump at the opportunity to support this.

I don't like it and I wish he had just kept his mouth shut but... He directed the AG to propose rules making it illegal to own things that convert "regular" firearms to automatic firearms. Those things are already illegal and bump stocks aren't one of those things - unless somebody changes the definitions in the existing law. I'm not sure that can be done without an act of congress. So far, there have been several unexpected twists in this presidency where some move that seemed like a bad idea at first ended up being the right move. I'm cautiously optimistic that this isn't what it seems.

Jeff Henninger Esq. in Tinton Falls seems to be very knowledgeable about NJ gun laws and he's talks like a regular guy, not an attorney.

I just read the statute and the administrative code. I thought a qualifiying shoot was a requirement. It seems that it's just one of four possible ways to meet the "thoroughly familiar" standard. I'm an NRA certified instructor in pistol so I think that will work.

So, do you need to have this qualification completed before you apply? I would be applying through the local trooper barracks. I would much rather be denied for not having justifiable need than for not completing some other requirement.

For those who are applying, how are you meeting the requirements for training and the qualifying shoot?