Mr.Stu

If you had a permit, none of the possession charges could be brought against you, because the possession offence is only applicable when you are in possession "without first having obtained a permit". As you don't have a permit you could be charged for possession, except "Nothing in subsections b., c., and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent a person keeping or carrying about the person's place of business, residence, premises or other land owned or possessed by the person, any firearm" So the short answer is, so long as you are on property or land owned or possessed by you, you're fine carrying your gun. If you're outside, in plain view of public spaces, it is advisable to carry concealed to prevent people calling the cops and alleging that you were brandishing. Also note that common areas, such as corridors, stairwells and walkways at, for example a condo, are not considered private property and you do need a permit to carry there.

In NJ carrying a firearm without a permit is a possession charge. 2C:39-5. Unlawful possession of weapons. a. Machine guns. Any person who knowingly has in his possession a machine gun or any instrument or device adaptable for use as a machine gun, without being licensed to do so as provided in N.J.S.2C:58-5, is guilty of a crime of the second degree. b. Handguns. (1) Any person who knowingly has in his possession any handgun, including any antique handgun, without first having obtained a permit to carry the same as provided in N.J.S.2C:58-4, is guilty of a crime of the second degree. (2) If the handgun is in the nature of an air gun, spring gun or pistol or other weapon of a similar nature in which the propelling force is a spring, elastic band, carbon dioxide, compressed or other gas or vapor, air or compressed air, or is ignited by compressed air, and ejecting a bullet or missile smaller than three-eighths of an inch in diameter, with sufficient force to injure a person it is a crime of the third degree. c. Rifles and shotguns. (1) Any person who knowingly has in his possession any rifle or shotgun without having first obtained a firearms purchaser identification card in accordance with the provisions of N.J.S.2C:58-3, is guilty of a crime of the third degree. (2) Unless otherwise permitted by law, any person who knowingly has in his possession any loaded rifle or shotgun is guilty of a crime of the third degree. There is an exemption for your own property. 2C:39-6 Exemptions. e. Nothing in subsections b., c., and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent a person keeping or carrying about the person's place of business, residence, premises or other land owned or possessed by the person, any firearm, or from carrying the same, in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section, from any place of purchase to the person's residence or place of business, between the person's dwelling and place of business, between one place of business or residence and another when moving, or between the person's dwelling or place of business and place where the firearms are repaired, for the purpose of repair. For the purposes of this section, a place of business shall be deemed to be a fixed location.

You might want to get that in writing from an official NJSP email address or on headed paper.

If this process was in place, Hillary would be nowhere near the presidency.

You seem to think chilling the dumbass legislators desire to pass more and more dumb laws is a bad thing. I'd say it would be a great thing. Testimony during the hearings prior to passing new bills that tell them that they are going against the constitution should be plenty of proof that they knew before they passed the law. When SCOTUS says it is unconstitutional, that is the proof that they ignored the facts and indeed did act against their oath. If they want to point to other legislators that voted the same way, that makes it a conspiracy charge as well as treason.

I'm sure you're absolutely right. Thanks for setting me straight.

Also, a semi-auto will chop the felt recoil down significantly, especially if it is gas operated.

His permit will only become invalid on Jan 1, 2024 if he has not completed the updated training and qualification. The permit expiration date remains what is printed on it. There are places to get the training done cheaper than $275. If Phillipsburg is a reasonable distance for him to travel, have him contact me. I will get him up to speed for $150.

If you got one of the special order ones without a threaded barrel, I think it would be legal with a pinned magazine. I've shot both a MAC10 and an UZI and they really are not worth the hype. I can't imagine this being any better.

The short version is Angela Cai wants the 3rd Circuit to follow the 2nd Circuit on all the bits she likes because if they didn't it would cause a split, but for the parts she doesn't like she's happy for there to be a Circuit split. She wants her cake and to eat it too.

Since the 2nd Circuit upheld the sensitive places parts of the NY law, the NJ AG's office wrote a letter to the 3rd Circuit Judges saying they should copy NY. The exception is that the 2nd Circuit supported the District Court decision that the default rule for private property that is open to the public does not require express consent from the property owner before a person can carry there. In the letter to the 3rd Circuit they basically said that the 3rd Circuit should follow the 2nd Circuit's decision, except where they got the default rule part wrong.

But he is nearly dead if you believe his constant whining about getting his neck burned by a bit of brass. He'll tell you I did it to him too.

It has a 24" barrel and is currently sporting an extended magazine tube - makes it 9+1 IIRC.

I don't know how old or big your kid is, but I have a Benelli Nova 20g youth model sitting in the back of the safe doing not very much.

No background check is needed for an 80% kit. They are perfectly legal to buy and complete in PA. The only offense is an NJ law which is possession of a "ghost gun". Nobody in PA is beholden to an NJ law. The vendor in PA is not responsible for any individual who chose to break NJ law by transporting the 80% kit into NJ. This overreach by Platkin needs to be stopped.

I suspect the OP is no longer looking for a safe, unless he's now looking to upgrade to a larger model. This topic is 11 years old!

Hanlon’s razor is the adage that you should “never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”. Applied broadly, this principle suggests that when assessing people’s actions, you should not assume that they acted out of a desire to cause harm, as long as there is a reasonable alternative explanation. https://effectiviology.com/hanlons-razor/

Where did I highlight the encourage part? The underlined text defines the AG as the chief law enforcement officer of the State. What he does or does not encourage in that role is irrelevant to his position as head cop.

It probably has more to do with the new CCARE protocol being issued 2.5 months after the deadline in the statute (July 1) so they extended the deadline to comply by 2 months. It is more likely they didn't even consider the holiday season, than do it maliciously. See Hanlon's Razor - "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Stupid != Ignorant

It has only been the law since May 21, 1970. How much time do you think is needed? https://www.njoag.gov/about/ 52:17B-98. Declarations of policy The Legislature recognizes that the existence of organized crime presents a serious threat to our political, social and economic institutions and helps bring about a loss of popular confidence in the agencies of government. Accordingly, it is hereby declared to be the public policy of this State to encourage cooperation among law enforcement officers and to provide for the general supervision of criminal justice by the Attorney General as chief law enforcement officer of the State, in order to secure the benefits of a uniform and efficient enforcement of the criminal law and the administration of criminal justice throughout the State. All the provisions of this act shall be liberally construed to achieve these ends and administered and enforced with a view to carrying out the above declaration of policy. L.1970, c. 74, s. 2, eff. May 21, 1970.

When you're getting rained or snowed on tomorrow, we'll be thinking of you.

I'm wearing a blue CNJFO t-shirt

I'm thinking I'm going to go today regardless. I'll aim for about 11:30. If anyone wants to join me I'd be happy to see you. I'll have guns that anyone is welcome to use, a thrower, clays, ammo and a hunting license.

I'm available