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Not for having that in your vehicle, no NJ statue prevents you from having axe handles, tire iron, steel pipe, or baseball bats in a car.

The link you posted directed me to sign in as someone *xxx xxx CISSP* if that's your name might want to edit the link

Sure, but the point is... LE cannot arrest you for a steel pipe, bat, axe handle, tire iron, etc. if found inside a vehicle. Any half-decent attorney could paint a good picture in court and get the charges dropped.

Again, the risk of being caught is a small price to see the sun rise the next day. With the knife I carry (which is legal, due to my trade) I'm confident I could stop or slow down an attack on me. You can have a baseball bat, axe handle, tire iron, 3 foot section of steel pipe, etc. all are not considered weapons in NJ but those items can do serious damage if needed to protect life/property.

That one fits me pretty well, I live in Atlantic county but travel for work from time to time in Camden/Newark/Jersey City and would rather sit in a cell to protect my life versus ending up in a box. Sure, I carry pepper spray (NJ legal size) and a knife (for my trade, electronics/wiring) daily but if I'm carrying a large amount of cash, equipment, etc. I *might* have a piece of hardware in my truck We need a national CCW law passed, everyone should have the right to carry a firearm. Cops are great but 99% chance when someone robs/stabs/shoots you a cop will not be in the area or able to respond fast enough...

So BA hasn't been sold (yet).... And people are still waiting to get guns back.... Where in the world is Phil?...

I know a few people that illegally carry, but they decided the risk of jail is worth it versus ending up dead. If it's concealed correctly (clothing, holster, etc.) should leave no print if it's a small pistol (ie a Walther PP or PPK)...would anyone notice? Nope, but if you are ever stopped and searched for some reason get ready for one of those Govt. paid vacations. Another issue would be if someone had to use it for protection, only option would be to dump the gun and if found that only looks worse in court.

Good advice, I have my mind set on a Browning FEG, CZ82 (or 83) and a early Colt. 25 pocket pistol. I'll probably do the FEG the week I get the permits and a day or so after go pickup my 6 exempt pistol, and use those two remaining permits with the required wait. So that means 9 pistols (6 exempt and 3 non exempt) all within 90 days so no extension.

Damn it, so now I need more ammo Hopefully I get my forms/permits back in the next week or so and I'll be able to pickup a non exempt pistol the following day. So that leaves 2 remaining permits good for 60+ days.... Hey Paul, any CZ 82's or similar in stock???

Thanks, after I pickup my 6 exempt pistols I might grab that other P64 a day or so after. And yes NJSP already has the serial numbers/model/make/cal/etc. for each of those "exempt" pistols...

OK, paperwork is moving along well my local PD sent out the reference forms and my references returned them yesterday...exemption form was sent off at the same time (the local PD held off on the permits until the exemption comes back) this could be a good thing as things are moving pretty fast 6 pistols on the exemption form, I applied for 9 permits, so........... When I get my permits and exemption back I know I can pickup all 6 the same day BUT what if I decide to buy a 7th pistol using one of the extra permits the next day?!?!? Would I be "exempt" and would that extra pistol count as just one gun a month OR do I have to wait a month AFTER picking up my ecempt pistols to buy something else??? I'm loving those P-64 and TT pistols Feel the need to buy some more when my permits come in

Do you even know how many non-violent offenders are already in NJ prisons? at least half of NJ's prison population consists of drug offenders that were non-violent. Free them and put the kiddy fiddlers, armed thugs and violent criminals behind bars.

The manufactures are selling it to wholesalers at the normal pre-panic prices, the wholesalers are making a small mark up but the retailers (online and retail) are still claiming they have had to raise prices due to the manufacturer. Of course we have assholes buying Remington range packs and CCI bricks left and right who don't even own a 22LR and selling that $40 range pack for $120+ all day online.

Also, with the cost of 22lr not nearly back to pre panic prices I've seen 22 rifles and pistols sell for less this year. A Ruger 10/22 I got off gunbroker a month or so ago ran me $158 NIB (new in box) normally retail a tad over $200. That included NICS/Transfer fees, too.

From Dicks? I think I remember seeing a flyer after BF and the prices were the same as on BF..? Hopefully AIM, J&G, Classic, etc. will run some decent sales but not holding my breath :/

For now I'm going to do the UT course and when my P2P's come in I'll take the FL course. Thank you for the links and wish me luck!

Can anyone confirm if live fire is required for a FLORIDA CCW? I'm looking at getting both a FL and UT and while I know UT has no live fire requirement it appears FL is the same. Can anyone confirm who has taken the FL course?

FPID is not needed for POSSESSION from what I was told, I'm more inclined to believe someone from NJSP who wouldn't risk his career if it was illegal.

I find it shocking, a trooper let me borrow his shotgun and AR before I had my FPID and take it to the range (without him being present) so I guess me and a trooper violated the law? or does this apply to handguns only???

I'm a member at SJSC so very familiar with the shop Thank you! I will call them this week

NJSP told me if a family member (parent) gives the green light they could loan me a pistol, this is from Detective.

Thanks! I might get my ass in gear and call them ASAP I really want a UT CCW since it covers the free states my relatives live in.

Shucks, that's cutting it close! Anyone know of any others for November, December, or January? Also I'm still waiting on my P2P but I can borrow a relatives S&W 44 Mag but it's a 8 3/8" barrel model so not exactly concealable. Utah classes are pen and paper with no live fire, right???

If this is in the wrong section, mods please move.. Any Utah CCW courses in South Jersey coming up?

PK90's Fast and Furious LOL .