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FYI, only one person in South Jersey has manchine guns legally registered with the State. I think he may have passed away I'm not sure but it was one hell of a HUGE collection.

So...LE dept's would have to have them shipped direct to the dept and not to a FFL/SOT if I understand correctly. Sorry you had to deal with that, I've spoken to some decent people at FIU over the last 5 or so months and while I ran into a few that were..well, you know, the majority were pretty helpful.

Paul, that sucks I thought SOT's could have SBS's in NJ? and the fact they would have considered it a DD if you pushed the issue tells 'ya what the State knows (or dosen't know) about firearms. :facepalm: So I guess they had to go to another SOT out of State? Not even a LE Dept. could buy them?

Flare Launchers Classification Not a Firearm Distinctive Characteristics Generally plastic Special Note AOW when possessed with ammunition inserts. Rate of Transfer Tax None ***Tax would be $200 with the "ammunition inserts"***

Not, it isn't. BATFE considers it an AOW, BATFE also says that centerfire conversions are AOW's if installed: EDIT link: http://www.atf.gov/files/firearms/guides/identification-of-nfa-firearms.html Flare Launcher Inserts Classification Any Other Weapons, only when possessed with a flare launcher Distinctive Characteristics Generally made of metal

Speaking of pen guns, wonder how that would fly in NJ? I know they made non-folding pen guns in .38 and .410 that are AOW's.

Well, I know one that would be legal in NJ... A 26.5mm surplus flare gun and a 22. LR adapter. But I wonder what other AOW's are legal in NJ?

I could buy a transferable MAC and S&W M76 Or I could move...I think moving is the better option lol I've read that AOW's are NJ legal, just no SBR/SBS but I've been toying around with the idea of AOW's...

Also, unless the seller is an FFL be careful many NJ FFL's will not handle transfers from private non-FFL sellers. Check with your FFL if it's a private seller.

I've bought and sold a lot on GunBroker, check the sellers feedback and if possible pay via credit card. I never pay via money order/cashiers check it's too easy for someone to burn you. Never had any problems, I've found mags/parts/etc I couldn't find from other sites on GunBroker.

According to the State Police, if a person obtains a "Licenses to Possess and Carry Machine Gun, 2C:58-5" that person could own assault weapons (M1 Carbine, for example). Is this worth trying to obtain? I'm determined to find some way to legally obtain a M1 Carbine in this State. I understand that if I'm denied the license it could prevent me from owning firearms all together? Any advice or don't even think about it?

Sig...not going to debate it but I have another name for Sig... H&K will find someway to stay open, public or private.

I've also shot them all on full auto Plus some items not seen in the US Want to play with some high explosives? My boss has a FEL in South Jersey Bring the HK's and I'll bring the detacord and BBQ...

I've shot fully automatic Glocks and even a S&W 39 this SOT had, so yes fully automatic handguns exist. Semi-automatic pistols? I've never called them semi autos I just call them "autoloaders"

If you are looking for HK clones built to HK spec that are NJ legal check out http://www.kellyenterprises.net/vke-custom-german-series.html Chuck is a great guy and I've bought several HK clones from him including the 556 and 308 clones, he will make them NJ compliant and the rifles carry a 5 year warranty by Vector Arms in UT. Built on PTR receivers and the rest is done by Vector in UT, the VKE-91K rifle I bought from him is bad ass, 12.5 inch barrel with brake (making it legal) but that damn thing is LOUD. If anyone is in SJ and wants to shoot it let me know

That's why we learned 556 NATO was needed as the 9x19 subgun ammo just didn't cut it with the common availability of kevlar vests and helmets popping up in the hands of criminals and terrorists worldwide, LE and MIL headed over to the M4 and other 556 rifles/carbines. The HK53 and HK43 are great on FA and are very accurate and easy to control. If I had to pick between an M16, AK, or HK53/43 I would take the HK53/43 IMO.

The 3 guys basically hinted that this was BS having to come out, but again they were professional and nice,

That's what I thought, I'm not buying 8 of the same thing and they are collectible firearms. I've had the ATF visit me once for several AR's I purchased (2 ATF agents and a NJSP Trooper) both were nice to deal with and asked if I collected firearms or was into target shooting, if the guns were for me, etc. I had no problem with them. They looked at the security cameras around the outside and inside of my house and well...looked very careful as to what they said and or touched but were still easy to deal with.

also, do you think FIU will deny it for these firearms? 2 x P-64's 2 x Romanian TTC's 1 x Smith and Wesson 59 1 x High Standard 22lr (the non supressed model, ie the civilian model) 1 x Charter Arms undercover (38spl) These are all 30+ years old.

Thank you for the info

FN...did someone say FN?

Bring back the HK-91, HK-93, etc. civilian clones now that the federal AWB is out of the way and build them in the USA. Dosen't HK have the factory in VA still? If not, send some damn tooling over here and put some people to work. People WILL buy HK civilian verions of the Military firearms they offer, in the 80's people were buying the semi MP5's like crazy (and the HK91, semi version of the G3) after seeing them in movies.

If they go public I'm buying some shares in H&K. I doubt they will go under, they can rebound given time.

A B C D E F G.... Some just don't get it?

WAIT...Crush AR's with Mack trucks? Thats like crushing beer cans, too easy. Side note, I ran over a beat up PTR-91 I bought for $400 (watch the H&K video of a 4x4 running over the MP5) the receiver didn't fail and it still goes bang, not a real H&K rifle built to spec.