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It's a joke If H&K goes under, anything made by H&K will go up in value so those with H&K rifles and pistols might see the value increase over time.

Like a Heckler & Koch Tent Revival???

Shit, now you are making me want a VP9...my wallet hurts to touch at the moment :/ How does the VP9 compare to the USP? I'm looking them up and the VP9 beats the USP for reviews, etc. so it must have something good going for it??

Visit this site: iammo.net For the Israel Military surplus guns click: https://www.iammo.com/Guns/Pre-Owned-Firearms Terry (the owner) has a bunch of Beretta, Smith & Wesson, Sigs, Brownings, etc. from the Israel govt. at good prices and the guns are in good to very good condition. A lot of items show out of stock, call him up if you are looking for something that shows not in stock they usually have it just not updated on the website.

If the 1986 MG ban was ever lifted, and civilians could own MG's that are post-86 again without any SOT...My first choice would be a G3KA4 w/ aftermarket buffer and an HK43 w/ collapsible stock and burst trigger group See, I have a soft spot for H&K, I own only clones of HK Military rifles since NJ bans the "evil" HK91, 93, etc. but I DO OWN a nice NIB HK-91 purchased (and stored) in a house over the bridge. The clones I have were built on the portugal tooling that PTR obtained (H&K approved tooling) and the assembled rifles are done by Vector Arms Inc. (Kelly Enterprises) and they are built well and run like champs (even with a registered pre-86 pack). I do not have a USP or P7 but have shot them, I didn't like the USP or P7 (the way it felt) but I liked the design of the P7's internals.

We all have opinions, opinions are like assholes everyone has one. Some people hate Glock, some people hate H&K, all for diff. reasons.

Just tried to find a ticker for it....DAMN IT! could make some mo$ey lol

Looking to cash in? I was thinking about H&K stock last night if the price drops.

It's just amazing to see Webley revolvers and Enfield rifles still in service, Speaking of the Israelis they not only have a ton of our WW2 firearms but a lot of surplus pistols from the 50's-80's are coming in from Israel for the US market.

I'm not big on modern handguns, or shotguns, or rifles lol so I guess I'm one of the few

I agree, shoot the surplus and trash the spents.

Welcome! Nice rifles!

Gotta love the Browning Hi-Power, L1A1, and Sterling SMG. Not listed but still in service are Enfield 303 rifles and some webley revolvers...any other countries still operating old proven gear? http://www.jdfmil.org/equipment/weapons/weapons_home.php

Gotta love it when folks wake up and say that

Bingo! if the OP could do this he could avoid the NJ P2P and all of the nonsense. Yep, I guess if you want just a pistol and a box of 50 shells to keep in the house the P2P without FPID would be fine. But hey, while sitting at the local PD filling out the form it's worth checking off the box for FPID

Most guys in the JCF carry an MP5 w/ collapsible stock and two 30-round mags, almost all of the trigger packs have 2 or 3 round burst (2-round burst trigger group & 3-round burst trigger group). Want retro? they are still using the FAL rifle and lots of old Vietnam era M16A1's, also some Sten guns are still in use. .40 Glock is the sidearm (no H&K pistols) with a lot of Browning HP's still in service. CQB is daily in Kingston (St. Andrew) as the police often conduct high-risk searches and with that comes room clearing. Patrol team in Kingston:

Great to hear, thanks for the info!

They have always been more of a LE/Mil company (that's who they market towards) and as a result customer service is leaned towards the LE/Mil users of the H&K weapons system and not the average civilian user. Of course, if you are in charge of filling a Govt. contract for a Military/LE unit with hundreds of thousands of dollars to burn you might get somewhere with H&K

Funny, in the US every dept. wants to get away from pistol SMG's and go for M4's and other compact rifles in 556. The Govt. of Jamaica actually started to move away from the 556 carbines and towards the 9x19 subguns again after people claimed the 556 was too powerful.

Guns are not toys, they should be able to take abuse and lot's of it. The MP5 is still over $1K on a Govt. contract and for that LE and Mil units want the damn things to take abuse and keep on running. I have had an extractor and roller pin fail but that's about it. Also, while most of the MP5's are 20+ years old and with 20+ years of wear things are going to break the MP5 is still produced by H&K (I have the 2014 catalog in front of me, shows them still). The ones the Govt. of Jamaica had from H&K were new off the factory line (2007 or 2008) and had problems out of the box with fit and finish, etc. so they were shipped back and repaired, many of the MP5's still had problems after being repaired and returned. The head space was a problem on a lot of them, along with bad trigger packs. I do not hate H&K, I own several H&K weapons and several clones from Vector Arms, PTR, etc.

Have not been in a Staples for a long time, forgot they offered that. Good info

Some people might want a pistol and have no need for or interest in rifles/shotguns, I know a few folks that only have pistols for HD and no long guns but of course they got the FPID at the same time as the P2P. I guess if you really want just a single firearm (pistol) you can still obtain a P2P with no FPID but the FPID might come in handy someday if you ever decide to get into long guns.

That's strange, what's needing repair on the MP5 so often?

Don't feel bad, the card stock mine was typed on was yellowed from age. It felt like a scene from Nazi Germany sitting and watching the LEO use that 1930's/1940's typewriter on my card. I thought damn, PVC ID cards are cheap and easy to print why hasn't NJ started usuing them? I tell everyone I know that's gets a FPID - GO AND GET IT LAMINATED! - I have mine cut down a bit and laminated to fit in my wallet without folding/bending the card.

I have no idea how he obtained it without that, I think it was left blank. It's possible (or was possible) to obtain a P2P without a FPID, in my relatives case he had a pistol shipped to a dealer from a family members estate and obtained his P2P without the FPID as he has never done any hunting, taget shooting, etc. so no need for long guns. Of course that was in the 90's. If unsure, call (609) 882-2000 ext 2060 and someone at NJSP FIU can probably give a better (detailed) answer on how to go about this.