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I took the Hunter Ed at Cherry Ridge today and it was interesting 1. Class started around 8:10-15 am 2. Had an initial lecture session about 40 minutes long. Unless you already know the material cold, pay attention! Everything he says relates to a question on the test. I might not have passed if not for that. 3. Since I was firearms only and did huntercourse.com, it was straight to the shotgun range where they had semi-auto shotguns. I initially panicked when I realized the targets are airborne clays, but they don't care if you hit or miss on your 3 shots. As long as you demonstrate proper gun safety, you'll pass (and yes, I missed all 3 shots ) 4. Then came the test with 80 questions, 40 on the "basic" section, 20 on shotgun, 20 on muzzleloader. If not for the initial lecture, I'm sure I would have failed the muzzle loader part. 5. I was out a little before 10am. It helped that I was the first person to test on shotgun and didn't have to wait around for my turn. I initially went for this just to be able to shoot at WMA ranges, but the idea of turkey hunting now has me intrigued...

I take it this doesn't require the use of a "media"? Any thoughts on using this versus the Harbor Freight wet tumbler set-up with stainless steel pins?

I figure whining to a bunch of low-level supervisors isn't going to change squat so I sent an e-mail to Derek Siddons, SVP - Retail and E-Commerce to complain. Don't know if it'll help, but the worst that could happen is he tells me to STFU and leave him alone so I got nothing to lose. I believe the e-mail convention is [email protected].

Just curious if anyone has done or see any testing on the effectiveness of their hollow point ammo (either the generic or the Hornady)?

Received an e-mail that my order was cancelled because they don't ship handgun ammunition to New Jersey. I called the customer service # to complain. I was put on hold while he checked with their firearms dept, he then came back and relayed the message the same message. I would have complained and asked to speak with the firearms department, except I just placed an impulse order with Freedom Munitions on their free shipping special, and don't really want both orders outstanding.

use the code fr33ship

I don't think he said he was opposed to open carry, just that he wanted something that was less obtrusive to carry around than a Glock 19. I do think the advantage of an IWB holster is that if he answers the doorbell he doesn't alarm someone at the door with the presence of a gun. I think a subcompact or single stack 9mm with a single clip holster fits OPs needs perfectly. Relatively light and easy to take on/off.

On the website. No problems so far and received order confirmation. Good to have another reasonably priced source of ammo. Thanks!

On Gander Mountain, $99.99 for 350 round packs. Free shipping over $50. I was expecting the free shipping to not apply to ammo, but shipping was indeed free.

Just placed an order for 700 rounds of 9mm CCI Blazer Brass at 28.5 cents/round, still free shipping!

It says "Purchases made in states without sales tax should submit this redemption form for special consideration", so maybe you'll get a Browning coozie or something.

Thanks again to everyone on your advice. I stopped by a few stores today (Lucianos, Meltzers, Caso's) and 357 magnums seemed to actually be scarce. Luciano's offered to order me a Taurus, but doesn't think too highly of them. He was of the thought that one should either buy quality (i.e, Ruger or S&W) or don't bother. And on a non-wheel gun note, he has a used Sig Sauer SP2022 in 40s&w for $299 if anyone is interested. At Caso's I have to admit I was intrigued by a Chiappa Rhino, but it's well out of my price range. After handling some guns, now I'm not so sure if I want to get a revolver or a 1911 next. I guess I should get to starting a Tisas vs Rock Island thread Thanks for the tip. I would have loved to check it out, but it's a bit out of the way for me and didn't have time to go. From an aesthetic standpoint, I absolutely love the 686, but I find the trigger reach in DA to be a bit long for me. Although for $499, I might learn to adjust. I just don't know when I'm going to be in the area (and if the gun will still be there when I am). This isn't something I would have thought of. I had planned on loading it with .357 mag for home use, so good to know. Very useful, thanks!

I believe www.gshunters.com in Paterson requires using frangible ammo in their range, so I assume they'd have some?

I'm curious, when buying on base, are you still subject to handgun permits, FID, and NICS requirements?

Thanks all for the comments (and thanks for the offer Baby Finster). I'm pretty set on 357, not that I have any ballistic or penetration requirements, but all my current handguns are 9mm and I just want something that will make a bigger bang when I feel like it, lol (and .44 mag and larger seems like overkill). I'm seeing a preference for Taurus between the two, but I think I'll take my time and keep an eye out for used S&W and Rugers that might be available. PS: and thanks for the tip on the Model 19, but it's gone

I'm looking to get a low-end 357 magnum as my first, and likely my ownly, revolver. It will be basically a range toy, and I'd be surprised if I put as much as 50 rounds/month through it (if that). It won't be carried and while it won't be a primary HD weapon, I'd like to be reasonably sure it'll go bang when I need it too. Barrel should be either 3" or 4" (not interested in snub-nose or really long barrels). Short trigger reach is also important given my small hands. Ideally, I'd like to get the Wiley Clapp Ruger GP100, but that's a lot of coin for a gun that I'm barely going to use. I'm hoping to spend no more than $300, and I realize that puts me in used territory. Any preference between the Windicator or Taurus? Edit: Also, other suggestions are welcome

Is Luciano's the same as Ottomanelli's? A link at Luciano's Sports Shop goes to osarms.com.

With this deal, there's only one .45 (commander style) available with the promo.

Still showing in stock, I'm probably going to regret not getting in on this: http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/sig-sauer-1911-combo-deal-1911co-45-t-c3-1911-22-b.html

I have two permits, one I'm planning to use either for a .357 or a .45. The other I'm just looking for whatever cheap gun to keep from letting it go to waste. I was going to get Hi Point, but I've decided I can't get over how ugly they look. Any thoughts on the B6PC? It won't be my primary HD gun, but my plan is to have several guns stashed around the house so that one will always be nearby. I plan to just fire a few hundred rounds through it to break it in and ensure proper functioning and then just store it away only to be used for emergencies. Also, I understand it to be a CZ clone and I'll finally get to find out what's the big freakin deal with CZs An alternative might be to get a S&W Bodyguard. Figure it doesn't hurt to have a pocket pistol in the collection, but it's another caliber to worry about, and I already have an M&P Shield as a carry gun.

Just make sure that if the ATF comes knocking on your door, they find oil filters that actually have solvent inside, and don't have two holes!

I took a low light class a couple months back and found myself getting my arms all tangled up, and at one point, bruising my weak arm pretty good as a recoiling slide gave it a good smack. I figure if I'm having trouble in controlled training environment, I hate to think how I'd be in a true stress situation. I realize it's something that more training will help, but until I get to that point, I'd be more comfortable with weapon lights.

With all the crack houses and meth labs within a 10 minute drive from that location, it's a damn shame that's the address they have to raid

Because the trigger is so good, I'd actually make the argument that it is not good for a beginner. In case you play golf, (this will probably be meaningless if you don't), it's the same argument behind a beginner that learns using blades as opposed to cavity backs. Blades will magnify your swing errors and eventually make you a better golfer provided you put in the training and practice. But if you just golf occassionally, then cavity backs are fine as you'll spare yourself the aggravation mis-hits, and will at least be able to keep the ball in play. I think it's the same thing for shooting. I find the PPQ trigger to be very forgiving of improper fundamentals. When I'm practicing my double action pull on my hammer-fired Sig, I have to concentrate on doing a continuous, straight-back, trigger pull with my finger pad properly positioned on the trigger to keep on target. With my PPQ, I'm absurdly accurate with little concentration at shorter distances, but the same lazy trigger pull at longer distances translates into inaccuracy. But if you aren't going to be able to shoot that often due to time or $ constraints, then it might not be as important an issue and just go with what you shoot best. I personally haven't been shooting my PPQ that often because I feel I'm not getting anything out of it training wise, but it is by far my most enjoyable handgun to shoot. 1. No, but If Woodland Park Range were to put in an underwater port, I'd try it out 2. Given the current state of the Greek economy, I'm sure they're now drinking instant coffee 3. I'd be happy to demonstrate as long as you're the one holding the balloons

Freedom Group doesn't seem to be taking the offer seriously. http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-12/cerberus-gets-a-1-billion-bid-for-americas-biggest-gun-company