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That's interesting, Dicks in Paramus just handed me 38spcl and 357mag ammo a couple weeks ago after taking down my info. I konw firearms have to be brought by an employee to the register. I found the same in California. The last store I went, just staring at a rifle was enough for a store employee to practically force it into my hands without having to prove eligibility to purchase or any of that nonsense.

Assuming you're shipping it to an FFL, I thought either you or the shipper are considered temporary agents of the FFL, making it not an issue. At least that's what the friend of my former roommate's brother-in-law read on the internet posted by someone who heard it from an LGS.

My point isn't whether that's correct or not, I'm just saying that I doubt they're immune from making decisions based on their personal beliefs and ideologies. And as Ryan stated, while I'm not happy with this, it's at least better than a granting of cert followed by an anti-2a decision.

Personally I think this talk of whether it's a true split or not is overthinking it. These aren't legal robots sitting on the Supreme Court, they're people with feeling and emotion. I doubt Sotomayor was thinking "We shouldn't grant cert because I don't think the 9th CA yet represents a true split", she was saying "People walking around with guns? Are you you crazy?".

FWIW, I have Talo edition 686+, really short fingers, and the grip will really make the difference when comparing guns. I was looking at L-frame revolvers and according to the internets, the GP100 has a shorter reach to the trigger versus the 686, but my experience was opposite. Of course, it probably boils down to the grips that were on the specific revolvers that I handled. My gun came with two grips, a wooden set with the backstrap fully exposed, and a rubber grip where it's only partially exposed. The fully exposed backstrap makes it very easy for me to reach the trigger, but I don't find the combination of wooden grip and exposed metal backstrap to be very comfortable to shoot, especially with 357mag. But it does look great...if it were customary to wear guns to barbeques in NJ, I'd bring this gun in this configuration. The rubber grip is easier to hold and helps to soak up recoil, but it does make it a bit harder to reach the double action trigger. Honestly, I'm not really a big revolver fan at this point. Maybe I just need to try out more grips, but the higher bore axis and less ergonomic feel bother me.

So those of you that also have 1911s at a comparable price point, which would you keep if you had to choose? I already have a P229 and know I like the platform. Anecdotally, I get the feeling that 1911s are more subject to reliability issues and can be high maintenance.

Per ANJRPC, not only did they not relax the definition of "reasonable deviation" to permit judicial discretion, but they also added language to limit reasonable deviations to 15 minutes in length

What races are those? I don't exactly have a Mike Bloomberg budget, but I'd contribute what I can in terms of time and $.

You stated that you didn't care about an "initial bit of paperwork" and that there were more pressing concerns. Being a former JC resident, those extra requirements beyond those mandated by the state denied me the right of gun ownership, so yes I do take it personal. If I'm misunderstanding something, let me know. And you're not the only person with "big city" fears. I too watched the WTC crash down from my downtown JC apartment, work in high-rise Manhattan office buildings and wonder what goes through a person's mind before they jump to escape the flames of burning jet fuel, and also saw the thousands of posters from people seeking their missing loved ones "last seen Sept 11 on the 95th floor of the World Trade Center", and regularly commute today through areas that would probably be considered likely targets for future attacks. I just don't think the solution is making people in big cities less free compared to those in more rural areas.

Because he got his guns already and it isn't his problem if the extra forms prevent other people from getting theirs.

Holy f@#$! Have you ever thought to yourself that maybe you have too many guns, lol?

You can see RTSP's stock here: http://store.rtsponline.com/revolvers-smith-and-wesson They seem to have a couple, but none that fit your parameters (note there's another S&W 586 in the used section). While recently shopping for one, I was surprised that 357s don't seem to be widely stocked, at least not at the stores I visited.

What caliber are you buying? I know there are local NJ stores that will err on the side of conservatism and request an FID for .223/5.56 since there are AR pistols.

It's pretty common for companies to want your FID on file, though I've been buying from companies that don't (more coincidence as opposed to being intentional on my part).

If the scotusblog calendar is correct, then orders still aren't released until the following week, despite holding the conference on Thursdays.

Free t-shirt? That's an offer I can't refuse, I'll be there.

The statute just says "valid" and doesn't say that an FID is invalidated when you move. b. Firearms purchaser identification card. No person shall sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of nor receive, purchase or otherwise acquire an antique cannon or a rifle or shotgun, other than an antique rifle or shotgun, unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder is licensed as a dealer under this chapter or possesses a valid firearms purchaser identification card, and first exhibits said card to the seller, donor, transferor or assignor, and unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder signs a written certification, on a form prescribed by the superintendent, which shall indicate that he presently complies with the requirements of subsection c. of this section and shall contain his name, address and firearms purchaser identification card number or dealer's registration number. The said certification shall be retained by the seller, as provided in paragraph (4) of subsection a. of N.J.S.2C:58-2, or, in the case of a person who is not a dealer, it may be filed with the chief of police of the municipality in which he resides or with the superintendent.

From what I see on the NJSP website you're permitted since they only specify for handguns that the ID must match, but I have a feeling you're going to have trouble finding a cooperative FFL. Also, the responsibility is on the seller, not the buyer. Long guns It is the responsibility of the seller of the shotguns, including bb, pellet, firearm to ascertain that the buyer has a and black powder rifles? Firearms Purchaser Identification Card plus one additional form of photo identification and a completes Certificate of Eligibility. The information contained on the Firearms Purchaser Identification Card must match the identification of the transferor. Hand guns A Permit to Purchase a Handgun must be completed on each handgun transferred in this state. It is the responsibility of the seller of the handgun to ascertain that the buyer has a valid Permit to Purchase a Handgun and one additional form of identification. The information on the Handgun Purchase Permit must match the identification of the transferor. ( i.e, name address, DOB, sex, etc.) The permit must be completed by the seller and buyer. edit: now I'm not so sure, I guess it depends on how you define "information". They only specifically define an address as "information" on handgun, but not on long gun.

Sorry if I'm opening a can of worms, but I thought it was okay under FOPA (of course this assumes that the LEO is familiar with FOPA).

I've only had a chance to shoot it once, and I'm not finding .357mag to be as fun as I thought it'd be...it hurts! I shot it with wooden grips, and I'm going to try with rubber grips next time to see if it helps any. Also, I shot it with a high grip, but I just saw a Jerry Miculek video where he recommends using a lower grip for higher-caliber revolvers to help keep your hand from getting beat up. But shooting .38 special is pretty fun. Those rounds in a heavy steel revolver make it feel like I'm shooting 22s.

That's great to have something like that. An issue getting it to work might be sourcing parts, or finding someone that can make the parts necessary. Note that I don't have first hand experience with any of the following recs: 1. These guys are well-known, but in Brooklyn and won't be cheap. Don't let the 80s website design fool you. www.superiorwatch.com 2. You can also try doing a search on this site: http://directory.awci.com/search_results.php?keyword=nj&category=&location=&zip_miles=&submit_search=Search You'll find a lot of the jewelry stores that do watch repairs will actually send it out to one of the guys in the above list. 3. You can try browsing around on www.timezone.com. If you post up pictures of the watch (even better if you're comfortable opening it up to show the movement), there might be knowledgeable people on the forum that can help out. Whatever you do, stay far away from the shopping mall watch repair kiosks.

As an M1 owner, I have to say that I'm stil undecided if I should have gone for an M2. I only have a little over 200 rounds through my M1, so keep that in mind. With enough practice and usage, the cons might no longer be an issue. Pros for M1 - lever release is very easy to manipulate with short fingers - if you've going to have a gun with a lever mag release just for the sake of variety, it may as well be the PPQ - you like having a ton of magazines, compatible Magnum Research mags can be sourced much cheaper compared to OEM. - Before, PPQ holsters tended to be designed around the M1, but with the M2 having been out for a while now, it might not be as much of an advantage as it used to be. Cons for M1 - If you're heavily trained on button mag releases, the lever will be annoying. I keep wanting to shift the gun in my hand to reach my thumb for the mag release button. Are you going to encounter a situation where a delay in locating the mag release may mean life or death? While I'm tempted to say that's a low probability, I don't know what you're going to be using the gun for or what situation you might find yourself in the future. Again, with enough training, this might no longer be an issue. - I often find myself touching the trigger when doing a mag change. This may or may not bother you.

Again, thanks all for your advice. I was prepared to go the Windicator/Taurus route, but I happened to stop by RTSP to look for turkey hunting choke tubes when I noticed they had a used S&W 686+. The trigger on that gun is sweet! The double action is extremely smooth and I didn't think to be too heavy at all. I thought I had successfully resisted temptation and left the store, but a couple miles away I made a U-turn and came back and got it. Note to self, don't leave P2Ps in your glove compartment when trying to control spending.

This is my whole point. My problem isn't about it being a convenience issue, my problem is that it's a practice that discourages firearm ownership, and this isn't very good for sentiment toward legal gun owners in NJ. Obviously, more people will be concerned with anti-gun legislation if more people are gun owners! And somehow guns stores in 49 other states manage to stay in business without requiring prospective gun buyers to prove eligibility prior to buying a gun. And you don't need to handle guns to be a royal pain in the ass to a store. I stopped by Ottomanelli's one night just to browse before heading to GFH. This guy was there bombarding the two guys behind the counter with questions "Which is the best carry gun? I heard the Sig Sauer P229 was the best carry gun ever. No I don't have a CCW permit. Is a Sig Sauer better than a Wilson Combat 1911? What makes the Sig Sauer such a great gun? Is it true that a .50 cal Desert Eagle isn't good for home defense because of the recoil?" Just listening to the guy was annoying me, but bless the hearts of those two guys, and they entertained his questions.

This is a huge pet peeve of mine. As others have mentioned, it's not a law and I confirmed this with a senior person at NJSP. But there's apparently an NJSP inspector who's going around telling FFLs that it is the law. Really? So I guess that means you have no problem with FFLs that require a prospective buyer to present a permit to handle gun either. And while we're at it, maybe permits should only be valid for 24 hours since a lot can happen to a person during a 3-6 month period. Heck, I find it hard to believe someone that got their FID 20 years ago will still be "trustworthy" today. if I were an FFL, I'd feel a lot more comfortable holding on to a drivers license so that I can at least see that the ID belongs to the person instead of an FID that might come from a stolen wallet. And I'm not one to be happy with NJ gun laws because "It's just the way it is". I have extremely short fingers and the PPQ with the smallest backstrap fits me perfectly. If that won't fit you then no full-size pistol will. In case you're convenient to RTSP, they've specially made a point of not requiring FIDs to handle a gun.