HBecwithFn7

Perhaps, you meant "should have been?" Not to sound cruel or speak ill of the dead, but IMHO, the responsibility for this tragedy is with one person only. Most tragically, she paid for her mistake with her own life. Adam Lanza was not the registered owner of any of those weapons. They should have never have been near him or within his grasp. I looked at the video provided by the authorities, and there were absolutely no signs of forced entry into the gun safe. So either Adam knew the combination, or it was simply left unlocked and the weapons accessible. IMHO (again) the weapons should never have been stored in the house. I'm certainly not trying to deny Ms. Lanza her 2A rights, but with a person "adjudicated" with mental issues, it gets a bit more complicated. I'd have found a locker facility or something off site to store most of that inventory and kept that safe locked (and the combination hidden) in re: the others or the HD/SD pieces. As for Mr. Lanza (the father), I wonder why the big emphasis on his statement "I wish my son had never been born." That may backfire. Not sure. I also wonder why he is so sure that his son would have killed the entire family if given the opportunity. There is more to his story than I think we're getting.

I just signed up for this class. We'll see how it goes.

I used the Nordic Components +2 extension kit. But in my case, I was "adding" capacity from a 4+1 to make it 6+1. Around $60-75. Also, the barrel is only 24". I took an 18" barrel on the 930 "Home Security" version and added a 28" barrel with accu choke installed (modified choke). The concern the OP might have with a JM-Pro is finding a NJ FFL that is willing to do those mods (at least the extension) for you, or trusts you enough to sell/transfer the gun to you without mods, on the promise that you'll make them (less likely, I think).

I know that too.

Honest mistake.... ... That's why I wanted to arrive early and test it! It had never been fired before. It works nicely, now though! Thanks Nick!

An excellent time! Great to meet new friends and see old ones. And to break in my 930! A special thanks to Nick for saving the day and figuring out what was mis-configured. Although it also helped that I brought the spare part with me. I will have to look at mail ordering more shells for next time. Also, very hopefully, I'll be able to bring my nephew and get him started right. Safe trip to Ming. Hope to see you again, soon. And I'll see y'all next month. Regards, Arnold (HB)

Welcome aboard, from Independence Twp., Warren County!

No problem. I'll even accept #7.5-8 target load as payment... :D

I have 2 boxes I can bring.

Precisely. To get the kind of results we're looking for, we'd have to do the kind of "registrations" we absolutely abhor! Most likely at NICS level if we're trying to be as accurate as possible. I think the best we can do is try and call BS on CNN and their stats - get them to show their evidence, and then simply rip into that.

Best of luck to ya. Hopefully, we'll still see you here on NJGF. You can tell us of how things are going in your new homeland.

I honestly don't think very many people send in those warranty registration cards. I know I don't. It wouldn't provide meaningful data.

What that tells you, though, is that Ruger and S&W, etc. are making and selling a lot more guns. But it doesn't tell you how many "newer" people (more or less) are buying them. CNN is claiming that "fewer people are buying more guns." The only way to get any kind of read on the "numbers" of newer people would be to summarize all the "New FPID requests" and "active FPID holder" records for states that have that kind of registration. No, it's not statistically perfect by a long shot (pun not intended), but it might tell us something and, at least, force CNN to back up it's claims with some kind of evidence (which I don't see how they can)...

Precisely... Consider the source.... Is any of the data collected by NJSP firearms unit (or other equivalent state depts.) available to the public at least in "aggregated" form? Any deltas in the number of applications processed should be a reasonable indicator. Certainly it won't tell the whole story, but... Unfortunately, things like "gun sales" or "NICS" checks etc. won't indicate how many "more" people are into guns... only how many more guns are being sold.

Either by placing a cookie on your PC, or capturing your WAN IP or something like that. It's one of several ways they can tell "you've already voted" and can't vote again. Now, can they tell your NJGF status or political affiliations? I'm not sure, unless they're also gauging the articles you read on nj.com and the like and, of course, if you actually create an account with them and log in (which I'd never do).

Done. Good to see the numbers are very much parallel to the 1st poll, so far.

Smith & Wesson M & P Shield, 9mm.

I'm in... as will be my new "inventory item..." As we discussed, Drez...

As I understand it (at least in Florida, where I studied it a bit), "Stand your ground" is simply an extension of the pre-existing "castle doctrine" - which provides for the use of deadly force (without retreat) when all criteria are met, but in one's home(land), place of business, car (perhaps) etc. etc. "Stand your ground" simply adds "additional places" to that list (in essence, "anywhere the victim has a right to be", with the exception of those places enumerated in the law - school zones, govt buildings, courts, houses of worship, etc - ie. places where you can't CCW anyway). "Stand your ground" has nothing to do with the "criteria for use of deadly force," which is a totally different thing to demonstrate. It simply enables you to "demonstrate it" in other places, outside of your "castle." Which would seem to be the reason why neither Zimmerman nor Michael Dunn invoked the Stand your ground hearing option, as the concern really wasn't about that but, more fundamentally, whether or not all the "criteria for use of deadly force" were met. In Zimmerman's case, they seem to have been. In Michael Dunn's case, not so much. Does VT, then, have a formal "castle doctrine" written in the law?

I'm aware that's the scope of A2006, but I thought I saw a thread earlier today regarding a "new" initiative. That is, "all .22 rifles." I'll see if I can find it, and post an edit to this post.

That's right.... My bad.... Maybe I'll consider it. But getting his mom to cooperate might be a bit of a challenge. Hmmph! If they are successful with these bans on .22 rifles, my nephew won't ever get to take legal possession of his shiny new .22 lever action rifle his grandmother bought him (she has to hold it until he turns 18).

And what's even more a problem is that I can't bring a guest to the range with me unless that guest comes to my place first, we go to the range, we go back to my place, and then they guest goes home form my place! I'd love to take my nephew to a "shotgun shootout" to give him some experience being around real guns. And he lives no more than 5 miles from CWA (I live 25 miles from it). But I can't stop to pick him up/drop him off! Sheesh!

Understood, but I wasn't commenting on that. I was responding to whether or not it is possible for a person to maintain multiple "primary domiciles" by possessing two or more separate State IDs legally, at one time. I haven't seen where that's at all possible, without the authorities eventually catching up to it. Very true. And I have suffered from this problem in PA, of all places.

Absolute "Zero" in the Hackettstown area...

I don't think that would work well at all given that, in most states, the "driver's license" and the "State ID" are issued by the same agency/authority. In my state, the "NJ Motor Vehicle Commission." Same database, same verification, etc. etc. Only one also confers the privilege of driving a certain class(es) of vehicle(s). Furthermore, when moving to a different state and re-establishing a "primary domicile," I have always had to turn in the license of my old state for the new one, in lieu of taking the "road test" in the new state. I'm thinking that any State worth its salt would ask if you have that kind of ID from another State and ask you to turn it in as well. Although you can own property in many states, you can only have one "primary domicile" (where you live physically more than 183 days per year, Where you vote, where you're taxed as a "resident," where your driver's license/state ID originates, where your cars are "registered"...etc. etc.).