Scorpio64

Precision rifles are the gateway firearm to reloading.

Cheyenne Mt. Outfitters have an okay selection. If you know what you want, call them to see if they have it in stock. (609) 570-8430. That's about as local to you I can think of.

I do not own a Judge, I just think a tiny handheld shotty is an interesting concept with it's own unique tactical advantages. I know the barrel length is a drawback compared to an 18.5"bbl. May even be useless against an assailant dressed in winter clothing. Still though, I like the idea. No matter what one uses for HD, it will be too much or too little depending on circumstantial variables. If a home invader is standing in front of my kids bedroom, I dunno if I want to put M855 through him.

I've read scores of editorials and forum debates on best HD firearms. Everyone makes a good point but they all miss the main issue. Defend yourself with whatever you are most comfortable using. Honestly, I suck with handguns, I'd probably shoot my foot before i neutralized a threat. I love my trusty old 870. It may not be as portable or sexy as a handgun with lights and lasers and tritium sights, but I'm comfortable with my clunky old workhorse. While not exactly the same thing as HD, I have seen video after video of soldiers clearing buildings in Iraq with M4's like champs. If handguns were superior, wouldn't they sling their M4 over their back and switch to a 9mm HG? Just say'n. With that said, I'm going to admit, in public, for all to see and mock, that I believe the ugly as sin Taurus Judge is a viable option for handheld HD. Using 410 buckshot is a force multiplier with 5 pellets in each round and it neatly addresses the issue of over penetration.. What can I say, I like shotguns. If I decide I like handguns at some future date, I could just stuff some 45LC in it.

My main concern with any muzzle device is cleaning the crud from the crown. A fouled or damaged crown will destroy accuracy. Ultimately, I went with a 16" M4 bbl and attached a TP because it is so much easier to maintain. Unfortunately, a TP is not an option with a 14.5" bbl and in the end, a 14.5" bbl with a perm attached device is essentially the same as a 16" bbl with a TP.

When I was considering a 14.5" bbl for my M4gery, the only device that I considered effective for dealing with the fiery muzzle blast and humane to the ears of my fellow shooters was a linear comp. I think the Kies or Levang would have been equally effective and there was no question of legality. There are some neat looking linear comps from other makers too but I think some may be risky to the arbitrary interpretations we hear about in courts. It seems, in NJ, that the cooler something looks, the more illegal it is

Yes, that would be a problem. It would also belch fireballs too. My bad for not paying attention to the bbl length.

Huh? The muzzle devices on both my ARs cost $12 each.

I meant to post this response a while ago. This is an excerpt from the Federalist Papers. It will help anyone who is unclear of the intent behind the Second Amendment of what it's true purpose is. Honestly, everyone has the right to participate in an argument, but it would be wise to participate standing on a foundation of historic fact, rather than personal belief. The above quote is only one example of the philosophy of the framers of the Constitution. I strongly encourage anyone who has not yet done so, to go to a book store and buy a copy of the Federalist Papers and a copy of the Anti-Federalist Papers and put it in your bathroom or on your night stand. Ignorance is the enemy of reason.

That billboard only makes sense to gun owners. What the real message should be is this. Restore right to self defense. That is a message that gets through to everyone. It also reinforces that NJ residents are essentially defenseless.

I think Rainier stands behind all it's products and you have a 90 day no questions asked guarantee. If you don't like the color it turns after 1000 rounds, you can return it.

Well.... On the 14.5" bbl and shorter M4s the 1:7 was to accommodate heavier bullets used to compensate for loss of velocity in shorter barrels. They compensated with mass for lost velocity which meant longer bullets and a faster twist rate. btw, the SPR and DMR do not have the giggle switch, they are strictly semi-auto. They are using LaRue floated handguards now.

One last thing worth mentioning. 1:8 is a popular "do all" twist good for bullets weighing 62gr up to 77gr but 77gr is really pushing the limits of the twist rate. If you are building an SPR true to spec, then it should have a 1:7 twist. 1:8 is not milspec for a Mk12 SPR. The only military rifle with a 1:8 twist, afaik is the SDM-R or squad designated marksman rifle, but that is a whole other animal. The Mk12 was designed to shoot 77gr Mk262 ammo exclusively. Remember, the SPR is a precision system so it was never intended to use M855 or M193, but, in a pinch you can shoot that ammo , just don't expect any decent accuracy from it. From my 18" Middy 1:8 Rainier SS Match 223 Wylde barrel I get (at best) 2 MOA from 62gr M855 (which is fine by me, it's just cheap range fodder) and get sub moa using 69gr and 75gr OTM match ammo, which is not cheap range fodder. For all practical purposes, the technical differences don't really matter all that much, unless you have OCD like me.

I'm kinda having too much fun with the banana concept. I'm looking for stuffed toy bananas about 24" long and about 4"-5" in diameter. If we could muster 18 people with military experience, ie drilling, we could put together a banana drill team. Honestly, it sounds stupid but it brings to light that our men and women in the armed services cannot get a ccw even in the face of real terrorist threats against them. "Banana squad!. Fall in......Aaaaaaaaateeeeeeeension! Right shoulder banana! Right face, Forwaaaaaaard, Huuh!

One more thing. While the US military typically uses the .223/5.56 cal in DMRs, the DRM designation is not caliber specific. Many DMRs are chambered in .308 / 7.62. The SPR is caliber specific though. If I recall correctly, the combat role is called "overwatch" The role is intended to extend the reach of a unit, to pick off threats before the unit reaches an objective. Also, as a counter sniper.

When will a list of exhibitors be put on the website?

For all practical purposes, two inches. SPR is a designated sniper system, DMR is a squad marksman (non-sniper) system. Besides the two inches, it's what the spec calls for optics and accessories to fit their respective combat roles.

Sometimes the only way to beat stupid is with something even more stupid. I really believe this can work. Walmart sells a decent looking clip on Nylon OWB holster for $5. Another thought I had about this. 1,000 people pumping their fists in the air does not do much, but get 1,000 people dressed the same and suddenly it becomes something else. Black pants, white shirt (polo or dress) and a banana in a holster . Showing up "in uniform" would cause many to wet their pants.

When the RPR first hit the shelves it was selling for just under $1,000.00 street price. Bill Ruger's founding principle was designing firearms of exceptional quality that the average guy could afford and they continue that tradition today. I agree that the value to cost ratio is heavily in favor of the consumer, but if Ruger priced it higher, there would be far less interest in it. They learned that lesson with the SR-556. The RPR is building off of the wild success of the ridiculously accurate RAR has garnered, and that is a good move.

Kinda reminds me of when the Dodge Viper first came out.

It also plays well against the old "is that a banana in your pocket" joke. We are most certainly not happy to see them ( the anti 2A legislators)

The more I think about it, the more I'm liking the idea of using holstered bananas in a mass protest. 1) It's cheap 2) It's non threatening, 3) bananas can become the symbol of NJ's firearms laws because, well, the laws are bananas. 4) It highlights the absurdity of not being able to protect one's self with anything but a banana.

Actually, that may not be strictly true. A small percentage of people who like free shit vote in overwhelmingly democrat controlled districts and win the electoral colleges. What I'm wondering is how there can be a district with 15,000 voters, only 3,000 turn up and that carries more weight where you have a district of 10,000 voters and 7,000 turn up. I wonder if NJ reinstated the popular vote, how that would influence the outcome of past, present and future elections.

That is a much less stupid plan. I love the banana in a holster gag, reminds me of a Monty Python sketch. I bet that would get a ton of media exposure. It also leverages one key principle in changing minds, use humor. I like it! The only problem I see, how do you mount a red dot on a banana?