Scorpio64

When historic precedent is found, and it does not help the left's agenda, the new thing now is well, back then women were property and all white men were racists, something something patriarchy and an extra topping of racist.

They are wary, for sure, waiting to see if it has anchor baby apps. They were thinking about shredding the app before it can reproduce on the Xerox, but do not know what to do in light of the recent overturning of R v W.

If I am not mistaken, in another thread about transporting to and from range. I believe it was determined that driving to the range with loaded mags stored separately from the firearm was not illegal based on some case that determined a loaded magazine is not a firearm, it is an accessory to a firearm. If someone was driving around with no firearm and three loaded mags, they are not transporting three firearms. If they are loaded with hollow points or wad cutters, that's a different animal..

Up till now, retailers only had to log the sales, and the log was subject to inspection at the pleasure of the state. Exactly what the new protocol means, no clue how and when the purchase data is submitted. Maybe @dajonga can fill us in on the deets. Basically the state has set it up so they don't have to go to the retailer to get sales data (electronically collect intelligence on US citizens). They can now look it up in their ammo registry in Trenton.

AFAIK, buyers have had to present their FPID when purchasing handgun ammo for quite some time. I rarely buy HG ammo, but that has been my experience. The retailer logs the purchase. If I am correctly reading the new bill, which Phildo has not signed yet, all this changes is that retailers have to submit HG ammo purchase logs to the state, instead of just keeping a record. The way I read it, everything is the same, except retailers now have to actively report HG ammo sales logs to the state.

There used to be a seasonal fireworks vendor at Monmouth Mall, but they are not there this year. Does anyone know of any pop up vendors in Monmouth? I know ShopRite carries some decent NJ fireworks but I want a little more variety than what they offer.

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Here's what was voted on: S1204/A1179 Requires firearm owners who become New Jersey residents to obtain firearm purchaser identification card and register handguns acquired out-of-State. Passed Senate 23-15. Passed Assembly 51-27. S1893/A1765 Allows Attorney General to bring cause of action for certain public nuisance violations arising from sale or marketing of firearms. Passed Senate 24-16. Passed Assembly 44-32. S2846/A4367 Upgrades certain crimes related to manufacturing firearms from third degree to second degree. Passed Senate 32-6. Passed Assembly 64-14. S2847/A4369 Prohibits possession and requires registration of body armor in certain circumstances. Passed Senate 24-15. Not voted on in Assembly. S2903/A1302 Regulates sale of handgun ammunition and develops system of electronic reporting of handgun ammunition sales. Passed Senate 25-15. Passed Assembly 47-29-1. S2905/A4366 Revises definition of destructive device to include certain .50 caliber rifles; makes certain exceptions. Passed Senate 25-14. Passed Assembly 48-30-6. S2906/A4370 Requires training for issuance of firearms purchaser identification card and permit to purchase handgun under certain circumstances; provide firearms purchaser identification card include photograph and thumb print and remain valid for ten years. Passed Senate 24-16. Passed Assembly 48-28-1. S2907/A4368 Requires firearm retailers to sell microstamping-enabled firearms upon determination of availability by AG. Passed Senate 24-16. Passed Assembly 45-31-1. A509/S504 Increases from 18 to 21 age at which person is eligible to receive firearms purchaser identification. Passed Assembly 49-28. Not voted on in Senate.

Gee, not even if the carjacker is threatening the owner with a sharp pointy stick, or a Glock? I guess I need to find that part of NJ law where is say a vehicle owner must peacefully relinquish property to a thief, if the thief has a weapon. Maybe we need an info booklet on how that works. Dick and Jane were carpooling to work. Jane was driving and stopped at a red light. A carjacker suddenly appears and points a gun at Jane. Dick sez, "Gee Jane, I'm sorry I can't use my CCW to protect us, it's a carjacking. God damn that carjacking loophole!!!!!

You know, you are right. Carrying for self defense is bullshit. It's better to get carjacked, raped murdered. Faaaaar less complicated. Funerals are much cheaper than defense attorneys.

The dead guys attorney may argue that you trained to kill, honing your murderous skills at every opportunity. Rittenhouse didn't know squat about proficiency and still won. Jus say'n.

A bird in the hand.... You know the rest.

It's doubtful BATFE will be disbanded. They do some legitimate work in R&D and are the best agency in the world when it comes to investigating firearms crimes and explosions. It should be an apolitical organization with no regulatory power. Actually, the F&E should be divested from the rest of the vice tax units. Firearms have noting to do with taxes, alcohol or tobacco. Guns are not a vice, they are a right.

While a 22 pistol is not ideal for self defense, if it's the only cartridge one can put all 10 in the x-ring, it's the best choice for that individual. No point in flailing around with a 357 magnum if the shooter can't hit the broad side of a barn from inside the barn. Biggest drawback is winter and meth addicts. Some people I know from another forum carry 22lr and 22mag, and they are okay with their choice. They know it wont "blow the lungs out of the body" but are confident it will stop most carjackings or assaults. After all, stopping the threat is the objective. One uses a Ruger revolver (I forget which) with a bobbed hammer, the other two carry Ruger's SR22 because it feels full size. Ammo choice makes a big difference. Paul Harrell did a few videos on the topic.

I'm actually surprised it's not worse than the 70's. Society is way more crazy now, and much less inhibited. I was expecting to eventually hear stories about punctured car gas tanks. Cat converters get stolen all the time. The guys doing this are not Robin Hood's, they just clever hood rats. RH GAVE to the poor, didn't sell shit. $4.79 at Wawa in Eatontown

Murphy will reach out to insurance companies and get them to pressure store owners to place no guns signs or face a surcharge or even termination of insurance.

AFAIK, NJ does not require a license to watch people fish,

I have a hunch the timing was intentional. [insert Forrest Gump "just like that" meme]

It probably has Fentanyl in it too. Them mexis put that shit in everything.

If anyone recalls, back in '16, Lt Col Russel, Cmdr Picatinny Arsenal was denied a CCW by Oceanport police chief. I hope he is one of the first to make an anti 2A chief eat crow.

Hey, come on man, were standing right here.

Not just NJ, but America. You have no idea how happy I am that the Constitution won, over judicial activism. However, I'm not yet prepared to join the circle jerk. It will be a while before this is figured out, and that will be by design. The socialist fucks will do everything, no matter how petty, to make it as costly and difficult as possible to protect one's self outside the home.

The way I see it, "common use" does not mean popular, it means contemporary, ie, not inferior to new current technology in common use. It would be like the government has quad processor computers computers while the peons are only allowed Commodore VIC-20s In 1775, muskets and cannons were in common use because they were technologically contemporary. In common use means common contemporary, readily available arms, used in the defense of ones self and America. Full auto M4s are in common use, but only by the military, and three letter agencies. Hell, even the USPS and IRS are packing M4s. WT everluv'n F?!?!

I wouldn't count on it.

Indubitably.