TheWind

What of Drachmas?

ACPD will love the influx of people with firearms.... it will be a first, they won't have criminal records though

Hey Old Dog, remember Howard Ruff and Hal Lindsey?

It is whatever the utility is to both parties. What is in surplus to me? how badly do you want it. Dollars are meaningless.

Marriage Equality, if it is legal in the other states it should be legal here....

Problem is barter developed from a survival society to a tribal/village society. Going from the city society to a survival/barter will be difficult if not impossible for many. Imagine a Camden family trying to barter with some live in the woods type? I have a full freezer of deer and a pantry... I still would not trade for anything he had. Before we go to a barter system, we will devolve to a gang/feudal system before barter? Or just a wholey depressed society ? worse than the early 1930's?

It is 'thou shall not murder' it is not thou shall not kill. there is a difference, self-defense is allowed by the T*r*h. In fact if someone breaks into your house when you are sleeping, you should strike them down, they are not there to steal, they are there to harm you and your family. It is rights avowed by the creator, Jefferson was a deist as were many of the founding fathers. Yes and a F&AS Mason, same wording. I may not believe the same as you, but I will defend your right to believe as you wish

Bartering is still very much alive. I do it more as favors to friends, But if we have something each of us wants? My wife would like a sewing machine a guy at work has. It is an old classic. He got it for nothing, it is worth $600, she offered him money, he wanted $250, he said no, he wanted her to do some embroidery work for his wedding. I have another friend that has a farm and barters all the time. IN SHTF, which can be a total collapse or just the country going down the hopper a little more, Barter will be more popular than ever.

Hammonton where my wife works was without power and phone. Her cell is not working either. Now I have to sell her on 2M

Mays Landing, we lost power for a few hours, A couple of guys at work from west of me said they were told not to expect power for 48 hours

I have provisions to charge in my truck. 3 power outlets in my center console, I keep charging cables for our cells, ipads and ipods. I also have a battery pack that will charge in the truck and charge my cells. As for the little SHTFs Food shortages and rising prices are going to occur more often, Food Storage, home gardens (before they are registered or banned) will be the norm for anyone with sense. I grew up with a lot of depression era adults around. They kept pantries and the hold over of the Victory gardens. As for civil disorder, I fear the cities will not be nice places. I have some buffer zones between their populations and us. Obama seems to want to move more of them out in to the suburbs. During one of the hurricanes they brought the populations of the AC Rescue Mission to Galloway Township.... crime went up, they looted the people that took them in.

Natural disaster, high prices and shortages, and civil unrest come to mind

I was just at Cabelas in Delaware, they had plenty of rifle powder, half a shelf of 4895, a little pistol, hardly any when I left. I just ordered bullets from King Shooters, 2K assorted. It is out there, prices are ok, you just have to shop around

I am in Atlantic and every storm has left me alone. Worst is power outages and that is start the generator. We have lived on it for over a week. Just to make it easier I bought two portable AC units. vent through the window no real installation and plug into the generator.