MauserCollector

The civilian will be charged with murder in the communist states for sure. Possibly in other states as well. Even though they would be perfectly within their rights in many states to shoot an unwanted intruder who enters their home. Regardless if it is cops making a mistake or a serial killer, they should be able to defend their castle. There is no way no how cops who knocked on the wrong door should be able to shoot an armed homeowner inside their home especially when they don't even raise their firearm. However the 2nd Amendment and The Civil Right to Life both took a major blow with this case. Hopefully it is appealed to the Supreme Court. I have a feeling the Appellate Decision would be reversed 5-4. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Make a day of it and hit some gun stores on the way. Tanners isn't too far off the beaten path. Plus it sounds like this maybe a movie worth seeing in the full frame. Likely won't happen for me unless it is still playing come winter. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

To get the full IMAX Experience, which 75% of the movie was filmed in, you will need to go to King of Prussia or Lincoln Square in NYC. None of the theaters in NJ have IMAX 1.43:1 they have what many refer to as LieMax. Here is a complete list. http://www.lfexaminer.com/20170705-Dunkirk-Large-70mm-Release.htm Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Same rioting destroyed Asbury Park. This is the exact reason the M1 Carbine is banned by name in NJ. Which just shows where the legislators heads are. I would much rather have a M1 Garand during battle than an M1 Carbine. I would bet most who voted to add the M1 Carbine thought it also fired .30-06 not a pistol round. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

He won't be charged. Courts have already ruled a cop can knock on your door in the middle of the night and shoot you dead. Even if they don't announce themselves, have the wrong person, and the wrong house. Just because you are holding a pistol at your side. Everytime a cop is held to a lower standard than a civilian, the distrust increases, and unfortunately the danger for the police increase. Every good cop should be talking out against the Andrew Scott Murder, but I don't remember reading much about it. I am sure many disagree with what happened in many murders by cop, but there is the unwritten rule of standing by their own, no matter how bad and wrong they maybe. http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/03/cops-given-pass-for-shooting-innocent-man-in-his-own-apartment/ Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&ei=slJxWaqMEMP1-AH345WYAw&q=disciplinary+actions+against+officer+noor&oq=disciplinary+actions+against+officer+noor&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..33i160k1l2.5673.7298.0.7890.9.9.0.0.0.0.120.683.6j2.8.0....0...1.1.64.mobile-gws-serp..1.7.616...35i39k1j0i22i30k1j33i22i29i30k1.gDSApF0zH1c Take your pick. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Use Google douchebag. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Since that article claimed to be setting the facts straight why was there no mention of the 3 complaints filed against Noor, 2 from 2017 that are open, or the pending lawsuit he is party to. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

@Nickjc your right on both counts. The useless posts have become more and more frequent. Making sifting through the forum unbearable, even when using the block feature. The only real chance NJ has is SCOTUS and that is what the election of 2016 was about. Once Kennedy retires and God willing Ginsburg is gone I believe the right 2A case will be correctly decided. This will then end state infringements on 2A. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Damn Tapatalk I noticed suddenly isn't quoting in replies. Anyone else have this problem and if so is there a workaround. It's only happening on this forum. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Those possible underlying motives are for 1st Amendment Lounge. Look into his background a little closer. Not saying it is the case but the possibility is there. I honestly wasn't looking to debate this shooting when I started the thread I just wanted an answer on newer dashcam technology and how they work. I guess the answer is there are many systems. That work many different ways. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

@High Exposure that is the issue, the courts have allowed use of force in far too many cases where we did have the facts, and no it was not justified IMO, but legally it was determined it was. Just because an officer perceives a threat does not necessarily give them the right to use force. I know many older and retired LEO's who agree with me. Especially cases where someone had a knife and multiple cops emptied their magazines into the suspect and the shooting was ruled justified use of force. I have the utmost respect for law enforcement. It is a dangerous job, but is was a chosen profession. I feel there should be a higher standard for police use of deadly force not lower. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Maybe your right@Zeke. I guess this case especially sickens me due to other possible underlying motives. Which may not be the case at all. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Because there has been no statement to the contrary and the shooter is refusing to speak to investigators or make a statement. Because there is no video or audio. Because an innocent woman who made the 911 phone call is dead. Because the police have released a statement that no weapon was found at the scene. Because I fear that somehow someway this will again be determined to be a justified shooting. Hearing a bang and someone running up to the car is not justified. Yes I understand the legal standpoint and strategy in not speaking. However if this was such a just action what is there to hide? Unfortunately the concept of protect and serve is dead. The courts have even ruled that police don't have a duty to protect and serve. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Bodycams not turned on. Policy there is to turn on if safe before using force according to media outlets. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

He heard a noise and shot through the vehicle at an unarmed woman who was approaching the vehicle. If this isn't a bad shooting there is no such thing as a bad shooting. If you're too afraid to do your job you shouldn't be doing it. Police can not be allowed to shoot someone because they heard a loud bang and saw someone approaching. This was the woman who called 911. Not a chance I would ever call 911. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Here is the police dispatch recordings. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

So the cameras don't necessarily automatically record when vehicle is turned on? If it was recording it would have picked up the audio. Is that correct? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I know we have a few LEOS on the forum. Curious as to their responses. I was told more than once that the Dashcam automatically records once the key is in the ignition and continues recording for a period of time after the key is removed. Is this not normal practice? Keeping in mind Minneapolis just upgraded their dashcams and added bodycams to officers so they would have the latest technology. Yet nothing was recorded of a shooting of an innocent woman who called 911. Who was shot by the passenger while conversing with the partner who was in the driver's seat. So the passenger shot across his partner. Yet no video and no audio. http://pamelageller.com/2017/0...lvr.it&utm_medium=facebook Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

True and the NRA has hung us out to dry but S&W39 said they have little influence in anti states. On a national level they are the only group getting things done when it comes to 2A. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Have you seen what the NRA has done in Kalifornia? They have managed to block every Anti-2A Law passed last year. Many of them were Propositions that were passed with over 60% of the vote. GRIZ gave a great answer to your other question, but to further expand on his answer the Second Amendment was allowed to be trampled by the same Liberal Activist Justices that legislated from the bench repeatedly. The worst decision being that of Roe v Wade. Not going to get into whether abortion is right or wrong. Just that it was a terrible and unjust decision because it used the 14th Amendment, which was meant to apply only to recently freed male slaves, to strip States of their rights to regulate abortion. Same flawed thinking was applied in Obergefell v Hodges where states were forced to recognize gay marriage due to the 14th Amendment which says nothing about marriage nor does the Constitution even protect the right to marry for heterosexual couples. Now that SCOTUS is finally swinging the direction of Constitutionalist Justices I expect not only will these bad decisions get overturned, but one of the Rights that is guaranteed in the Constitution will be protected and applied to every state. For if Liberal Justices were able to reach so far with the 14th Amendment, applying the exact wording of the 2nd Amendment will be quite simple. The comma makes it clear IMO that the intent was to simply state that a well regulated militia is necessary for the security of a free state. To protect us from all tyranny be it foreign or domestic. After the comma or commas depending on which version one reads, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed should be read on it's own. Keep and Bear means to own and carry. Shall not be infringed is clear as day. This will nullify carry restrictions, magazine restrictions, and "assault" weapon bans for law abiding citizens. I believe the Second Amendment was a fail safe in case all the other checks and balances failed. This almost happened during FDR's Presidency. He even tried to pack the court. This is also why both Democrats and Republicans have allowed the Second Amendment to be trampled. It is a threat to a corrupt and tyrannous government and their storm troopers. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

National Carry will happen because the Second Amendment protects it. Keep and Bear means Own and Carry and it shall not be infringed. Just need the right court, which we will have when Kennedy retires, and the right case, for SCOTUS to clarify to the Communists what the Second Amendment really means. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I'm guessing it has to do with petitioning Alito directly since he is in charge of the 3rd Circuit which includes NJ, DE, PA, and Virgin Islands. At least it is Alito and not Ginsburg Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I think it is just a teaser ad. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

How is that possible? SCOTUS docket I believe is set and I don't remember seeing them on it. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk