Lambo2936

I hope youre not referring to the NJGF Swag weve all been waiting for? Not a fan of ugly yellow, they better be grey or something.

.....thanks for rubbing it in.

I'd give JT Tons of business if he wasn't way the heck down south. Seems like all reasonably priced dealers are way down there, though... Up here it's just overpriced places like Heritage. I'll definitely be contacting some people down your way if i bring myself to purchase a new TAVOR or any other new expensive firearms. Good luck with the AK!

4 people to a table and youre good to go. The ROs are chill, just dont do anything stupid and make their lives harder, haha.

How many of you guys on here shoot down in Fort Dix? I'd like to be able to put together a meet, especially for younger people such as myself to get to know others with similar interests (obviously you old people can come, too) I know the shotgun shootout seems to be fairly popular around here, but at Range 14 there's the option to shoot off a bench (or other positions) up to 200 yards out. I would gladly bring all of my firearms so that others can try them out, and i'm sure others on here would do so as well? Each table is limited to 4 people. One member can bring 3 other individuals. I'd imagine if we're a large enough party i can contact them to reserve tables ahead of time. What do you guys think? We can do it on a Friday or on a weekend or something? Only downside is that it'd cost all of you folks 4$/hour. I have a membership and can bring 3 others, but everyone (including members) has to pay the 4$/hour to keep the annual membership rate down. I wouldn't mind anyone bringing their significant others, friends, etc. as well to get them into the sport.. Let me know what you guys think? I think it'd be a neat idea, and i know for a fact that there are quite a few folks on here around my age (22). Another thought is maybe combining the shotgun shootout with standard rifle bench shooting and such? They also have a trap range or whatever; i don't do the shotgun thing, haha. If anyone lives up North, they can meet at my home in Woodbridge (or we can meet somewhere in the area) and i can drive a few people with my truck.. seats 5 and i've got an enclosed truck bed with a cap on it, so everything would be safely locked away.

I wish you guy's luck! If you really make notable change in the whole JN/CCP issue we have here in NJ, i would gladly cut a check to help cover whatever you are owed. That said, unless i was guaranteed a CCP i sure as hell can't afford to throw money at the wall. I hate to be a negative person, but i am, and the situation in NJ is, as you now know, terrible.

-came here to bitch about the fact that those are both NOT COMPLIANT- FML.

I'd be out of here in a heartbeat if i had a job lined up somewhere. Unfortunately, i am fairly 'unskilled'; i make a living selling my stuff online, but once i move i wont have a supply or anything like that.. I went to college for 2.5 years and would like to finish, but until then, i've got nuthin really going for me. Here, at least i make a few bucks on the side on my fathers property so i've always got someone helping me out if god forbid i need it.. If i move to VA or any free state, i'm screwed; its just me, my 1YO and my Fiance.. Here, my mom or her family watch the baby so that she can work, etc... You just can't replace some things with freedom, haha.

I should ask Connie @ WBPD about that; i only used Inside-NJ references so it was never an issue for me. That's quite odd, because otherwise woodbridge is fairly good when it comes to the permit process.

So i can legally prance around Newark with my AR15, locked and loaded, strapped to my back? I've got a feeling that wouldn't end too well. As far as the lawyer thing, i believe the free consultation would be if you were looking to sue someone, etc.. I doubt theyd bother looking into NJ gun law (and, as stated, the VAST majority know jack **** about NJ gun law, besides for a handful that are mentioned on these forums) just to give you a free consultation that they KNOW won't lead them to making any money. They only do so when they have something to gain; and i don't blame them... I hate having to answer peoples 500 questions only to have them offer 20% of my asking price on an item..

To be honest, i dont think there is much of a point in paying to consult a lawyer. The laws are fairly clear; transporting to that location is illegal, as it is not exempt (not a range, your residence, or a LGS etc) and you can't carry unless it is YOUR business or YOUR property. If you are not a partner, you can't carry there. If you ARE, then definitely double check with a lawyer; they may want you to be a majority owner or something stupid like that.

Whoops, meant to say the prices are nuts in stores. Dicks occasionally has a good deal, and Cabelas as well as bass pro are both fairly far unfortunately. I'd like to get my hands on a nice Rem 700 and would rather save on a lightly used rifle, but if i cant find something ill wait until Dicks has a sale again and buy one there, i think. They used to have the 700adl or whatever with the scope package for 500$ in black, but now they only have it in crappy grassy camo which i hate, so i have to spring for an SPS or something.. First i have to sell something else, and that doesn't seem to be going too well. I got one decent offer on the M1A, but i think im going to sell the Archangel stock seperately with the extra mags and just sell the rifle itself with the original stock. Doesnt seem like people want to spend money. Crazy, because when i was trying to find an M1A for myself it took FOREVER to find a nice one. Does bass pro in AC have a decent selection? I Don't remember. I hated the fact that they refuse to sell to NJ from their PA store... I'd imagine NJ will only have neutered firearms with no brakes or anything, as they wont want to deal with pinning stocks and barrels.

I'm on the mewe group as well; still fairly crappy. A lot of old beat up stuff noone wants. I think it's the election doing much more to the market than i thought it would. I'd love to see the statistics for how far up gun sales are right now. I just can't bring myself to go pay retail on a firearm. The prices are nuts online.. maybe if i order from buds and pay a transfer fee.

It is not my business, nor my property. My understanding is as such, it is illegal for me to do so. I have a business that sells stuff online that stores stuff there, but i dont have a lease or anything. Even if i did, it would only cover me in the two units i store stuff in. The building is a storefront property, so i cant walk around with my Mossberg strapped to me on the street, though itd be nice to have with me in the primary warehouse in the back which is a few thousand sqft.

So, i've been both trying to buy as well as trying to sell some stuff. Armslist, and this website, have been fairly dead when it comes to all of the big, scary, rifles, and even handguns? Has anyone else noticed this? Are people really that scared to let go of them before the election? I can't find a single handgun i'm genuinely interested in buying (good condition, good price, good gun), and certainly not any Black rifles. I've also had two rifles up for sale and only gotten a handful of (mostly ridiculous) offers. When i first got my FID there seemed to be a lot more out there, though... It might just be me and my luck (tons for sale when you don't want anything, but when you do all ya hear are crickets). Who knows, haha.

^Lmao. I went over this same question probably a few weeks ago.. NJ Law sucks.. My father owns a property that i manage in Newark, but i still can't carry there as i do not own it. Not much i can do about it, haha... The general consensus on here seemed to be to bring a 12G with me but keep it unloaded. I believe its still legal, being a long arm, as long as its unloaded?

We were discussing just what you asked, PD2K, either in this thread or another Almeida/ PO6 Thread; i believe this was the one: http://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/82042-po6-nj-carry-challenge-count-i-%E2%80%93-violation-of-the-second-amendment/page-8 Generally speaking, the aim of this suit is to at a minimum get them to put- ON PAPER - what Justifiable Need even means. What this suit proved; and what NJ admitted; is that Almeida DID have justifiable need but was STILL turned down, only to have them turn around and issue him a permit and admit that they should have done so AFTER he went through the hassle of taking them to court for a long, long time. So, either NJ is breaking their own rules, or there is some unknown definition of 'justifiable need' that we dont know. Currently, it appears that even if you have J.N., you get denied and have to FIGHT for them to give you the permit. If, however, it is ON PAPER that JN is XYZ, and you fit the bill and they deny you, it'd make everyones life much easier. Ultimately, the goal is obviously Concealed or open carry for all who can legally own a firearm in NJ. But, if we can get "Justifiable need" and its definition put on paper, other than what any individual PO or Judge thinks, it's a big start in the uphill battle. The next step would be to get the Supreme court (which will hopefully be right leaning)to rule that their JN standards are unconstitutional, but that will not happen anytime soon.

Well, we're talking about if there is an AWB in NJ; can we keep the now-banned and therefore non-compliant rifles in PA and still be legal? Is the rule of it being compliant in both states only valid when purchasing NEW firearms??

....i better get rid of mine then

Out of curiosity, what if you were to grind the MP5 off of the receiver and cerakote it in free usa? It still wouldnt be legal as it is still an MP5, right?

^Not a bad idea, but i think the issue is PA gun laws; NOT nj gun laws. Can we purchase firearms and keep them in PA if they are non-compliant? PA may insist they be legal in the state in which the owner resides; i'm not sure how their stuff works. If its Kosher, i can see it being a great idea... If AR's are banned i'd probably rent in PA, seeing as driving to PA to shoot is the same distance as me driving to ft dix to shoot.

If the OP was kidnapped and has proof (police report, etc.) and has the money to sue NJ, i'm sure he'll get a permit too. They certainly wont give it willingly.

That is a terrible design. In the event of a missile strike or the likes, that door can take a direct hit due to the angle. Also, any mild flooding would be an issue as that thing appears to be burried below grade. I believe 6k psi concrete is waterproof, but the door/seams may not be.

Nothing wrong with cement/concrete. All homes in Israel are built like that, for obvious reasons. The bunker? Fuhgettabout it, the door was probably half a ton in steel alone, built to withstand some crazy direct impacts. The homes here would literally collapse at the slightest nearby impact haha. A cement/concrete ceiling/roof is of no issue, itll just be really expensive.. tons of rebar work and such has to go into it.

You should fill my freezer too. Never been hunting, or i'd do it myself... LOL