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Good point, you can eat all the cans of beefaroni and chili you want, but without water, you're dead.

Actually, you were spot on with your assessment of Mountain House, even though Griz didn't think so. I would never put faith on cans for long or short storage, as they can easily spoil and go bad, sometimes with unnoticed dents, and the shelf life is usually around a year on cans. Hell, it's easy now just to throw a few extra cans of beans or soup in the cabinet, then come back what seems like only a few months, only to discover they expired. True, M.H. needs water, but having to not worry for decades on storage is worth it.

Lives to 94, when the average life expectancy for that generation was late 70s... That's a a heck of a lot of "extra innings".

Where is @USRifle30Cal to come back and fill in the blanks of what he's planning on doing with the MREs?

Yes, right along with the 10+ round mag police.

Depends on how long and where they will be stored. Many cans don't have a really long shelf life.

Ahhhhh... I really like that feature!!! Which is why I prefer something along these lines. The potential thief doing a quick search doesn't know it's a gun safe:

Zombie Apocalypse. A few questions, what type/amount/length/number of people of storage? A few days, weeks, a month, year. It depends on what you're storing them for. Hurricane or major storm for a few days, social unrest for a few weeks, filling a bug-out location? Camping or backpacking, RV trip? Feeding the In-laws? What resources will you have available? Fresh water? Heating source? Storage space? Need a few more details.... I lean towards Mountain House brand. Comes in different sized buckets, cans and pouches.

Sorry, just stating known facts...

@Greenday Couldn't they just put a poster up on the wall advising the customers of that law? Don't they make you watch a safety video and make you sign a liability waiver before they let you shoot?

Ha,,,, we were thinking the same thing!!

Sadly, Greenday and his crew love having Big Brother watching over them and providing all the daily services. Remember, he's a Bernie Sanders supporter.... Socialist for all!!

Hmmmm, when I did my change of address when I moved a few years ago, the local PD took a copy of my old card when processing the change of address, but didn't take the original and I had to do everything like new except fingerprints. When the new card was ready, they also didn't ask for the old card. I still have it.

That was my point. I was a first responder. I was a volunteer. I never considered myself a government employee providing a "public service" or was a "public servant". I was helping my town and free to be involved at any level. Many times I got to the scene BEFORE the cops got there and provided the necessary attention. Where's my pay check? Once again, that's my point. There's no way I compare the "service" a guy who volunteers to join the Marines, and gets sent to Iraq to fight for the country (even if he gets a pay check) to the guy who provides a municipal "service" by cleaning the sewers on my street. In my opinion, not even in the same universe, and shouldn't be classified or grouped as such for their "service".

The odds are, they will make you go through the complete process again, just to change the address, depending on the local PD. If it's only been a short time, you might not have to go the fingerprint process, but every PD does their own thing. Isn't it wonderful living in the communist state of NJ?

True... They prevent the "smash and grab" Tweakers from getting into the safe. Anyone who's really serious will get into one and help themselves. If they really have to work at it, the odds are they will move along. Another reason why I like the "hide in plain sight" method. If it doesn't look like a gun safe, or is hidden, guess what, it increases the odds that it won't get touched. Just make sure she's ALWAYS happy!! With access to the safe, I sure wouldn't want wifey pissed off at me.

Actually, I think that was a bad example of "public servants". In most towns in NJ, First Responders (fire, rescue, CERT) are volunteers, and aren't being compensated by the government, like your typical government worker. It isn't a government job. You SHOULD thank them for their service, they're providing them to you for FREE, unlike the police, hospital workers, road department, etc. Just wondering, do you include trash collectors, water and sewer department, snow plow drivers, tax collectors, teachers, animal control, etc. in that group and thank them for their service as government employees? I think that's because the word "service" is being used too generic. The level of "service" a municipal worker provides is just a bit different than what "service" a guy on the front line in Iraq provides. This is where we need to make a better distinction.

Exactly... besides, there's more important things to discuss here on the forum than unconstitutional laws.... like meatloaf!

That's what surprises me. There are quoted 1 million gun owner in the state (which actually sounds high to me), but even if it's half of that, and many are Fudds, how many are actually members here on the forum. Maybe Max can tell us the average numbers of posters on any given month. Maybe a few dozen??? This is a NJ based gun forum. Where are these thousands of gun owners fighting for their rights?? Crickets.... That tells me that probably 90% of gun owners in the state either don't care or have their heads in the sand. The few dozen that pop in here have no leverage in the state. Even over at Reddit at NJGuns, there aren't a lot of participants. Unless someone or some group gets their act together and rally the troops, like Mothers Demand Action can in their red t-shirts, this state is a lost cause. To me it looks like the 2A groups in the state play "can you top this" instead of pooling all their resources and working together for a common cause. This dilutes all efforts... It's really a sad state of affairs...

Take the MP 15-22 with the 15 rounds mags and see what they say.

What recourse do the citizen at large have for getting a unconstitutional law signed in June and shoved up our asses? Want recourse? Are the 1 million gun owners in the state willing to march and protest on Trenton waving 15 rounds mags in the air, demanding repeal and recourse?? Didn't think so.

This has been my experience at Shooters numerous times. The ONLY question they ask, when seeing that I'm carrying rifle cases, is what caliber they are. Then they leave us alone. That's it. I'm sort of surprised that they don't even inquire about mags or at least have signage up reminding people about the new mag laws. Range 129 needs to pay a visit to Shooters and learn some things.

Oops, apparently the gunman didn't get the memo that the legal limit of mags is 10 rounds. I know, Maybe CA should pass a 5 round limit, yeah, then the criminals will abide by it, right? ...." The suspected Thousand Oaks gunman was carrying seven high-capacity, 30-round magazines when he stormed the Borderline Bar & Grill earlier this month, authorities said. The magazines are illegal to buy or possess in California but easy to attain in neighboring states." https://abcnews.go.com/US/thousand-oaks-gunman-high-capacity-magazines-illegal-california/story?id=59440205 Yep, reducing the legal mag limit for law abiding citizens really works well to deter mass shootings in the state, right Gov. Murphy?

What are you expecting?