Sniper

Well, you'll get better information reading Playboy for the pictures, than reading CNN for, well anything accurate or factual...

Is that like reading Playboy, only for the articles?

...."Furthermore, stories abound of sick people in the US showing up at doctors' offices and hospital ERs, asking to be tested yet being sent away because no test is available or because they don't fit the testing criteria -- leading many to comment that the lack of testing is going to kill us all. But we should be clear that more testing saves lives by preventing the next infection, not by allowing doctors to catch an individual patient earlier. The blundering lack of an effective testing program in the US is an unconscionable failure and has led (and will lead) to more transmission of COVID-19." Translation: "Orange Man Bad, and he'll kill us" I could have saved CNN that whole wall of text....

...." More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority. The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities, finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions. More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease. The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

We can also base them on the data from the quarantined Diamond Princess in Japan, and from the data out of So. Korea. Italy might not be a great basis, as their population is quite a but older than here, and the vast majority that died, over 50% of them, had at least 3 pre-existing medical conditions. Diamond Princess data:

Can you give a general idea how fooked the shooter was, in a self defense situation, not a 'hood shooting?

That's certainly possible, but like I said, I don't know anyone who ever was in that situation, so it's all a mind experiment now. I guess it would depend on the distance to the target. Which is why a shotgun or rifle isn't my first choice, but a handgun is. In the case of that distance getting closed up, getting a round or two off, even in direct contact, a handgun would give a better fighting chance.

Well, you got a great point there!!

Yeah, I get that.. but just spitballin, maybe the first shell is rubber pellets, and if that doesn't change their mind, the second one will be buckshot. Maybe sending them away with some nice welts, will make them think twice next time, while saving you all the legal B.S. Does anyone here actually know of someone who pulled the trigger on a intruder? We all speculate, but what happens to you in reality, after the cops show up? What type of legal headaches follow? I know my wife would really be pissed if I splattered intruder blood on the carpet.

How many were you able to get?

Looks like ServPro will possibly be busier in the next month or so...

It's here... make your last minute runs..

I've heard from two more reliable sources, it's coming, probably by Sunday. Essential services will be open (grocery stores and medical related businesses). Any non-essential businesses will be told to close. Essential personnel (utility workers, LEO, certain .gov workers, etc. ) will still be working. Just watch the run on grocery stores and liquor stores this weekend...

No... "we" haven't. You decided to jump on me regarding this post I made: It SPECIFICALLY references the Bayer drug, NOT something else. That was YOUR and 10x response to my post. I said it WASN'T approved.. I specifically said that, yet you still want to argue the SAME point. Is their a mirror in your house? Go look into it, pretty fucking amazing stuff.. or you can continue to do this:

I think he needs to cut back on the caffeine...

Just a heads up, coming here momentarily by Murphy... ....."The morning after California laid out the most restrictive measures to combat the virus in the US, NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Friday laid out new measures for New York State to combat the coronavirus outbreak, imposing new restrictions like ordering "100% of the workforce" to stay home. During this time, Cuomo is order all businesses in the state that aren't deemed "essential" to close, and added that though public transit will remain open for people who need it to travel to their 'essential' jobs, and to get to places like hospitals and doctors offices and grocery stores and pharmacies, he urged New Yorkers to only take the trains if absolutely necessary. He threatened to fine businesses and individuals caught breaking the rules. "These are not helpful hints...they will be enforced. There will be a civil fine and mandatory closure for any business that is not in compliance.

I was having a conversation last night, regarding the natives getting restless when their paychecks stop. We've been talking here about lethal rounds for self defense. Has anyone considered using non-lethal rounds instead? If the situation truly arises that you need to defend from a tweaker getting in, do you want to deal with that bloody mess, and all the police and legal crap that comes with it? What about some non-lethal rounds from a 12 ga, like bean bag rounds or rubber bullets? Certainly would get the point across to the invaders, but might not bring all that other legal crap. Just spitballin here...

There seems to be confusion (on your part). I was specifically referring to the Bayer drug, as per the FDA director, is NOT approved in the US, and he said it needs clinical trials here.. Do you want to continue to go off into the weeds, or maybe you just know more than he does?

Exactly what I was referring to above. Doctors just can't write Rx off-label for a drug not approved here until it goes through clinical trials and gets approved by the FDA. Some people are confused with doctor's writing off-label for approved FDA drugs for similar conditions, like arthritis or cancer drugs.

I wonder how many people here have actually ran through a practice drill where they had to get something out of their safe to defend themselves quickly? I doubt many...

What....no attack dog???

Sure. You willing to take the liability for that?

It all depends on how fast they re-write the protocol, get the clinical trial data, and get the approvals through the FDA. Right now, it can't be prescribed for Covid. You willing to volunteer to be a clinical guinea pig? Not how it relates to Covid and side affects yet.

What if he's not a fisherman?

Be careful.... pay back is a bitch...