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My local Walmart shut down 24 hour openings, and now said they close at 11PM so they can restock overnight. And 80%+ that test positive don't require and medical intervention.

Yet.. I said Incrementalism, they have to do this in small bites, as to not spook the sheep. There will be a national shutdown or quarantine soon... just like in Italy. Look what's gone on as of today: Cruise ships suspended, major sports suspended, schools closed, government offices closed, restaurants, bars, gyms, closed. All groups/events of 250 people suspended. Nursing homes locked down. Now, the talk today, groups of 50 people suspended. Dr. Fauchi is calling for a 14 day national quarantine. Trump has hinted to it. Cuomo, DiBlasio and Murphy have all brought it up.. The media started that panic weeks ago. Got toilet paper? This was done to get the sheep to stock up in plans of a curfew or quarantine for an extended period. There's been 3700 confirmed cases and 69 deaths out of 330,000,000 people in the country. Over-reaction?

Better get your take out completed by 8PM, otherwise you'll be shot on sight if you're on the roads. It's called Incrementalism... One by one, our liberties and freedoms are being taken away, in the name of "Social Distancing", or "Flattening the Curve". And the "sheep", since they were fed the panic, will just go along with it, because we have 100 cases of Covid in the state of 9,000,000 people...

So, which one you going to tonight at 9PM expecting to sit down and be served?

Hope you're prepared

Yes they are: Gov. Murphy announces NJ statewide curfew for all residents, businesses must close at 8 p.m. ...."New Jerseyans should not leave their homes from 8 p.m. to 5 a.m., as Gov. Phil Murphy announced an extraordinary action of recommending a statewide curfew for his 9 million residents to attempt to contain the spread of the novel coronavirus. All casinos, restaurants, bars, movie theaters and gyms must shut down at 8 p.m. and will remain closed until further notice in New Jersey, New York and Connecticut, the three governors announced Monday. https://www.app.com/story/news/new-jersey/2020/03/16/nj-curfew-coronavirus-prompts-statewide-curfew-gov-murphy/5057576002/

That's a really good point, I was thinking about that earlier. Since it appears to hit the elderly the hardest, just get them to sequester. Many over 65 are retired anyway, so it's not like they have to go anywhere on a daily basis. Then, educate all the kids/grandkids who are the petri dish carriers that they MUST stay away from Grandma for a month or so. Would definitely be a heck less costly and not crash the economy for EVERYONE under 60. Then, anyone in between, who already knows they are medically compromised, can make the decision to self quarantine or take the risk of wandering around in public and possibly get infected.

There are 7 known coronaviruses. The first 4 are the common cold. The fifth was SARS. The sixth was MERS, The seventh is the current Covid.

That is correct, but it goes even farther. The media reports infections and deaths as of right now. They don't take into account the lag time of incubation and sickness time, before death. So, someone who dies today actually became infected like two or three weeks ago, maybe more. So, if they wanted to really report closer numbers, they should report the number of deaths today versus the number of infected a few weeks ago. This is why it's so tough to get accurate numbers until the whole situation passes and the virus dies out. Only then can there be more accurate numbers. And that's even before trying to calculate the number that were infected and self treated and were never reported. That number can be easily over half more of the reported infections, since 80% of infected never require specific medical intervention.

Ha.... they can't even decide what to call mystery meat that comes in a round, cloth bag... or how to cook ribs.. you're really asking a lot!

The number of infections, I'm sure, is higher than reported. Main reason, minor cases don't get reported. But, dead bodies do... So, if this is as bad a Raz-o claims, the dead bodies should be laying all over the place.... Are they?

Speaking of asymptomatic, I researched the data from the Diamond Princess that was quarantined in Japan for 14 days. This is an interesting dataset, since it was such a closed, controlled group, and it gives some ideas on the contagion and spread: Total number of people tested on board (crew and guests) : 3,063 Number that tested positive for Covid-19: 634 (21%) Number showing symptoms: 306 Number not showing symptoms : 328 Number of positive people who died: 7 (1%) Now, a look at the cross section of the age brackets who tested positive: Six were aged 0–19 years, 152 were aged 20–59 years 476 were 60 years and older So, based on these numbers, it appears that the mortality rate was around 1%, not higher like the media has been reported. Plus Dr. Fauchi also said he felt it was around 1% the other day. Also, many who actually test positive (close to half) don't show symptoms. What's interesting is that more of the older age groups were asymptomatic versus the younger ones.

You should write scripts for Hollywood horror movies, with such hyperbole and fantasy.... Ahhh, come on... why destroy such a great false narrative that he has going... Let's look at REAL data, not hyperbole and "what- ifs". The seasonal flu season starts in October. The Covid came on the scene in November, about a month later. Let's compare TRUE numbers, not some hypothetical, failed math experiment. These are the numbers as of last Friday: As a comparison, the seasonal Flu WORLDWIDE: There are reported to be some 1 billion influenza infections worldwide each year, with up to 45 million cases in the U.S. per year, tens of thousands of U.S. deaths, and 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide. In the USA: CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 36 million flu illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths from flu. Now, the current Covid WORLDWIDE: Coronavirus had infected 128,392 people globally and killed 4,728 as of Friday morning, The U.S. had over 1,701 confirmed coronavirus cases and 40 deaths. --------------------------------------- One month difference in the start month, ACTUAL numbers WAYYYYYY different. Making up false math equations with unproven data doesn't accomplish anything... Remember, you're entitled to your own opinion, you're NOT entitled to your own facts.

Here is the weekly update from the CDC for the seasonal flu as of March 7th: ...."CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 36 million flu illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths from flu." Why hasn't there been any media hysteria about those numbers??? Does the lives of the 22,000 don't matter to the MSM versus the 57 Covid deaths in the country now?

It hardly has been mentioned... it ruins the sensationalism of the MSM broadcasts. To date, there are at least 2,952 confirmed COVID-19 cases in the U.S. and at least 57 deaths, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. And the country goes absolutely crazy..... Yet, 110 people died today in car wrecks, 110 yesterday, 110 the day before that, 110 the day before that... and no one blinks.. has there any call to ban cars and trucks??? 1,640 died of cardiovascular disease today, 1,640 yesterday, 1,640 the day before that, 1,640 the day before that.... has the government banned double cheeseburgers yet?

You guys that work/commute to NYC, take note.... it's coming....:

It will be interesting to see if this grows legs. Dr Fauci is calling for a 14 day nationwide shutdown. Trump listens to him... ...."Dr. Antony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, urged Americans to shut down more aggressively as the coronavirus spreads. On MSNBC’s “Meet the Press” Mr. Fauci endorsed a 14-day “national shutdown” to help slow down the virus. He explained that he has brought it up with the administration, which is generally open to his ideas. “I think Americans should be prepared that they are going to have to hunker down significantly more than we as a country are doing,” he said. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/15/anthony-fauci-urges-coronavirus-national-shutdown/ Exactly... but they don't seem to me concerned about that, probably because their government salaries are guaranteed... I looks like Murphy is going to try and call for a statewide school shutdown for starters..

That article is spot on, and should be read by EVER knucklehead in D.C. She makes many GREAT points. The lawmakers will crush the economy, affecting EVERYONE, to try and save a few old people. Some quotes: ...." So far, the United States has seen forty-one deaths from the infection. Twenty-two of those deaths occurred in one poorly run nursing home outside of Seattle, the Life Care Center. Another nine deaths occurred in the rest of Washington state, leaving ten deaths (four in California, two in Florida, and one in each of Georgia, Kansas, New Jersey, and South Dakota) spread throughout the rest of the approximately 329 million residents of the United States. This represents roughly .000012 percent of the U.S. population. By comparison, there were 38,800 traffic fatalities in the United States in 2019, the National Safety Council estimates. That represents an average of over one hundred traffic deaths every day; if the press catalogued these in as much painstaking detail as they have deaths from coronavirus, highways nationwide would be as empty as New York subways are now. An example: there were 34,200 deaths in the United States during the 2018–19 influenza season, estimates the cdc. We did not shut down public events and institutions to try to slow the spread of the flu. Yet we have already destroyed $5 trillion in stock market wealth over the last few weeks in the growing coronavirus panic, reports The New York Times, wiping out retirement savings for many. But the damage to people’s livelihoods through the resulting economic contraction is real and widespread. Its health consequences will be more severe than those of the coronavirus, as Steve Malanga shows in City Journal.

Yep, it's definitely coming. The majority will abide by it. What's really worse, is the economic fallout by shutting everything down and having all economic activities come to a halt.. This will push us into a major recession, or possibly even a depression, all to save a few older people....

Oh Snap, what next attack and scandal will the Liberal media and the Dems try next? What say you @AVB-AMG ? Trump tests negative for Covid:

Yep.. and that will probably overwhelm the medical facilities. They looked at the numbers in So. Korea, which seem to be more legit than China, and they determined that of all the people coming in with virus symptoms, only 4% tested positive for Covid. Everyone else had something else. The press conference on Friday said that number was 2% here. So it appears more people are freaking out, thinking they have Covid, but it's actually the flu.

So, how long do you think it would take to test 330 million people? What facilities and labs could handle that flow? And, what happens if a person test negative this week but then comes into contact with a positive carrier next week?

I've been saying that since the numbers started coming out from China. In the beginning, they were only counting severe cases and dead bodies, to get their mortality rate. They had NO idea of how many minor and self treated cases there were. So, now, with more people being tested, their seeing a lot more minor cases, which is dropping the mortality rate. It recently dropped from 3% down to 1%. I expect it to drop even more. That's why I posted BOTH worldwide numbers. The seasonal flu season started a month earlier than the first case of Covid, but when you look at both sets of numbers, the worldwide flu numbers exceed the Covid numbers by a wide margin. And remember, many people get vaccinated for the flu, and we still get HUGE numbers of infections. So, I believe that the seasonal flu has a higher contagion rate. It's the hype and panic of Covid that's the MOST contagious!

Can you please make up your mind... First you bitched because you felt Trump didn't act fast enough, now you're complaining, after Trump asked the cruise lines to shut down, about economic damage from it... So, which is it? Or, are you just going to continue your Liberal bitching for ANYTHING Trump does?