I came upon this article about the 5,000% increase in NJ concealed carry permits since the Supreme Court decision:

https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2024/03/nj-concealed-handgun-permits-soared-after-bruen-ruling-scotus-second-amendment/

It talks about the soaring increase in carry permits. It's (to no surprise) seriously implying that carry permits are out of control.

Before seeing this, I learned that there are now 33,000 permits. I could not believe it was that few in a state of 9M+. So this article is fear mongering with its 5,000% bullshit. It's a total fear manipulation.

Also, follow this link if you want to learn town by town where the permits are: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/nj.office.of.justice.data/viz/PermittoCarryDashboard/Intro

Fight the bullshit!

Yeah, my reaction was... holy cow! I gotta apply SOON... do my part to help pump those numbers up. 

Hmmmm… in 2023 shootings in NJ dropped below 1000 - that’s around a 30% decrease… I wonder if there is a correlation.

1 hour ago, High Exposure said:

Hmmmm… in 2023 shootings in NJ dropped below 1000 - that’s around a 30% decrease… I wonder if there a correlation.

Da yah think? LOL So much for Murphy's and Platkin's "blood in the streets if we allow carry permits." Permits up 5,000%, shootings down 30%. Let's go for 100,000 permits!

Thanks for noting that @High Exposure

1 hour ago, Mrs. Peel said:

Yeah, my reaction was... holy cow! I gotta apply SOON... do my part to help pump those numbers up.

I may have to join you there Emma!

1 hour ago, High Exposure said:

Hmmmm… in 2023 shootings in NJ dropped below 1000 - that’s around a 30% decrease… I wonder if there a correlation.

it was the first time since 09, wasn't it? i'd venture correlation and causation.

1 hour ago, High Exposure said:

Hmmmm… in 2023 shootings in NJ dropped below 1000 - that’s around a 30% decrease… I wonder if there a correlation.

Most likely.  Nobody.knows.whos.armed and.whos.not.

Polite society.

and yea.....either they're not letting us see how many permits were REALLY issued, or we gotta pump up those numbers.

I belive his report is going to work for us.  33000 permits no issues with ccw holders and the correlation of shootings violent crime dropping

1 hour ago, High Exposure said:

Assuming this chart is cumulative in some fashion, that's roughly one CCW per 300 people.

But but but all the BLOOD running in the STREETS! 
 

It’ll be like the Wild West! 

51 minutes ago, Vdep217 said:

I belive his report is going to work for us.  33000 permits no issues with ccw holders and the correlation of shootings violent crime dropping

The state admitted in court that they had no data showing CCW holders commit more crimes.  

1 hour ago, Displaced Texan said:

It’ll be like the Wild West! 

Quote by Bob Viden!  I guess he was wrong!

1 hour ago, JohnnyB said:

Quote by Bob Viden!  I guess he was wrong!

Here’s a companion video to that NJ Spotlight News article in the OP.

Interesting stuff…

www.pbs D O T org/video/nj-spotlight-news-marxh-19-2024-1710862630/

It’s about 25 minutes long

(I broke the link so it doesn’t track back here. Cut and paste into your browser and add a https:// in the front and replace the D O T with a . )

 

3 hours ago, voyager9 said:

The state admitted in court that they had no data showing CCW holders commit more crimes.  

Skip to 14:25 to hear Col Callahan speak on this a bit.

12 hours ago, High Exposure said:

Yes, it's just a guess on my part, but the 2020 and 2021 numbers are probably mostly, if not all, safe truck employees.

Guess none of those doom and gloom predictions came true. 

1 hour ago, Displaced Texan said:

Guess none of those doom and gloom predictions came true. 

They don’t need them to come true.  They just need to make it sound like they could and let the media and sheep slurp it up.  

6 minutes ago, voyager9 said:

They don’t need them to come true.  They just need to make it sound like they could and let the media and sheep slurp it up.  

You’re right about that…FACTS mean nothing to them. 
 

It’s all about the narrative. 

1 hour ago, Scorpio64 said:

".... and used one of the approved terms: RACIST!"

Remember that it took over 6 months for NJ to get their permit requirements finalized and classes had to be changed and approved so last year a large number of people were also waiting for that to all get ironed out.

On 3/23/2024 at 1:27 PM, JimB1 said:

Remember that it took over 6 months for NJ to get their permit requirements finalized and classes had to be changed and approved so last year a large number of people were also waiting for that to all get ironed out.

Including me. Now that the dust has settled I'll be going for mine this year.

Just saw this on yahoo, probably same info, just surprised yahoo posted it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nj-gun-permits-skyrocketing-towns-092203887.html

Are we all dead yet?

6 hours ago, CMJeepster said:

Are we all dead yet?

Yeah... blood running through the streets like the prophesied Valley of Megiddo...or so the New Jersey government wants you to beleve...

Wrong thread. Moved.