High Exposure

If it is a freak accident, it can happen to anyone. Better question: If this happened to Keanu Reeves would we be so happy to celebrate this tragedy at his expense and so eager to see him headed to the gallows?

Manslaughter. Homicide is a cause of death (as compared to natural causes, etc…) Manslaughter or murder are when it is caused by another. Manslaughter is negligent, murder is purposeful. Both have degrees based on aggravating or mitigating factors. Who knows? Tantrum - he bears full responsibility. Doing his job - as directed - is a different story, IMO.

No. That’s like blaming a NASCAR driver for a crash during a race that kills someone or a boxer the kills someone in the ring. The actors are being instructed by a director where to point and when to shoot. Everyone is on board: it’s in the script the insurance riders it’s been rehearsed and practiced reviews by safety and stunt people agrees to by contract lawyers it is possibly even a second or third take The actor is trusting that the prop-masters/armorers/safety people have all done their job correctly. He didn’t just pick a gun off the table at someone’s home and point it and shoot it at someone. He didn’t swap the armorers load out with live ammo, or use his own gun. This was a professional action agreed upon by all parties involved. Hell, the victims were behind a camera placed and designed to catch the gun firing for crying out loud. They knew he was firing a gun and stayed there because it was supposed to be safe. *** Granted - these are assumptions based in what has been reported so far. This could be totally wrong if this was an unscripted independent act.

It’s not that simple. Remove your predisposed dislike for the person and look at the actions.

Again, conjecture because I am not in the business, but… I do know that there are strict chain of custody rules to firearms on film sets for the specific reason to avoid accidents like this. I would imagine that actors are given the firearm by the prop master and told not to fuck with it at all - aside from completing the actions as scripted and directed - until the prop master retrieves it. Sure, you or I could probably inspect and determine function and safety, but an actor? Unrealistic and unreasonable to assume they are all trained, familiar, or educated in gun safety or firearm rules. It’s the prop masters job to “handle” the firearms. It’s the actors job to do as they are “directed” with the firearms.

Rule 1: Treat all firearms as if they are loaded. Alternately, Know the condition of your firearm at all times. (I will argue an empty gun when you need it to be live is just as much as a safety violation as a live gun when you thought it was empty.) I teach my kid to follow the rules with nerf and laser tag guns. I teach all new shooters to follow the Four rules with red guns and inert trainers. No excuse and no exceptions.

It’s a cowboy movie - that means revolvers. On camera, you can see an empty chamber in a cylinder so they install dummy parts that make the gun look loaded. My understanding of what happened to Brandon Lee is one of the little fake rounds, or a part of one, got loose and ended up lodged in the barrel from an earlier scene. A blank was loaded behind it, essentially creating a live round when fired. My assumption - something similar happened. He likely pointed the “blank” gun at the camera and pulled the trigger while the barre was obstructed. This would explain how the director of cinematography and director were hit. That being said, I wasn’t there and this is all conjecture. We may hear the truth, or we may not….. doesn’t matter. All the media will share is - two innocent people are dead because “guns are bad”

Tex, Not directed at you or anyone specifically. Hell, I posted the first meme poking fun. In retrospect, I probably shouldn’t have. But - It is satisfying when karma does what karma does and it is hard to not enjoy a good shitshow when it happens.

I agree it’s rewarding to see karma smack that twatwaffle in the face. But the resulting death and injury help no one. Mostly, it won’t help us. We all treat guns seriously. We train ourselves, we teach others, and we constantly preach safety - precisely so this kind of thing doesn’t happen - regardless of who it happens to. We shouldn’t celebrate when it does, even if they had it coming.

I’m joking about it but in reality it’s horrible. Schadenfreude aside, this will help no one. Two innocent people that didn’t deserve to be shot were. One has now died and one is seriously injured - this is what we all train to avoid - and this does nothing to further our cause of gun rights. This will win us no allies it won’t sway a single person towards our cause. This incident is dark comedy materiel for some, but mostly it is fuel that the Anti 2A crowd can use against us. One more tragedy on their list that they can put their finger on as they scream that guns are killing people.

It’s not a new cartridge. It’s been around for a while - developed in late 80’s. Put in service in 1990 by a few militaries/agencies. As a plinking cartridge it’s fun and shoots flat, but it’s expensive and hard to find. As a defensive cartridge, it’s trash. Lots of better options out there.

Why not both? I’d fix it up, then hang it up. If you need it, it’s there and it works.