Even if locked in trunk or separate from weapon?

why would you even want to chance it? Don't bother.....keep it unloaded.

I think this is the $64,000 question. I don't think there has been a case to explicitly confirm or deny this issue.

If the mag is loaded and in the same case as the firearm you are going to get screwed.

 

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Shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel, shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

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The firearm should not be directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle's glove compartment or console.

 

For additional exemptions refer to Chapter 39, namely 2C:39-6g.

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Shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel, shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

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The firearm should not be directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle's glove compartment or console.

 

For additional exemptions refer to Chapter 39, namely 2C:39-6g.

 

The question is: What constitutes a loaded firearm? Is a magazine considered a firearm in NJ? If there is ammunition in a magazine, is it the same as having ammunition in the firearm?

I can tell you that every cop I have ever spoken to family included stated.

keep any loaded mag's in your car even if in a separate case. The law is unclear and does not

state it but I do not want to be the guinea pig in this case. Hell every time I saw a pistol

sold at Shore Shot they would tell the person when leaving do not keep any of your mag's loaded and how to transport it.

 

I can only hear the prosecutor now, Since there is no right to defend yourself out side of your home here in NJ in the law's eyes there would be zero reason to keep your mag loaded next to the unloaded firearm, unless you were looking to cause or find trouble.

I can tell you that every cop I have ever spoken to family included stated.

keep any loaded mag's in your car even if in a separate case. The law is unclear and does not

state it but I do not want to be the guinea pig in this case. Hell every time I saw a pistol

sold at Shore Shot they would tell the person when leaving do not keep any of your mag's loaded and how to transport it.

 

I can only hear the prosecutor now, Since there is no right to defend yourself out side of your home here in NJ in the law's eyes there would be zero reason to keep your mag loaded next to the unloaded firearm, unless you were looking to cause or find trouble.

 

+1 agreed.

This was taken from the Hollow point section but it also applies to all ammunition.

Notice sealed box or locked case is stated not magazine unloaded from the firearm.

The law is exact words here more then anywhere else, I would stick with these words 100%.

 

As with other ammunition and firearms, a sportsman would have to comply with the provisions of N.J.S.A 2C:39-6f and g when transporting hollow nose ammunition to a target range. The ammunition should be stored in a closed and fastened container or locked in the trunk of the motor vehicle in which it is being transported. The course of travel should be as direct as possible when going to and leaving from the target range with "only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances." N.J.S.A 2C:39-6g.

 

I can only hear the prosecutor now, Since there is no right to defend yourself out side of your home here in NJ in the law's eyes there would be zero reason to keep your mag loaded next to the unloaded firearm, unless you were looking to cause or find trouble.

 

Save time at the range or to keep my reloads secure from bouncing around.

I can only hear the prosecutor now, Since there is no right to defend yourself out side of your home here in NJ in the law's eyes there would be zero reason to keep your mag loaded next to the unloaded firearm, unless you were looking to cause or find trouble.

 

If you are the Owner of a business, you are entitled by NJ law to carry at your place of employment. You may not carry to work - you must take your 'piece' and secure it in the truck while traveling, but as the Owner, you are entitled to carry AT work.

 

2C:39-6e "Nothing in subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent a person keeping or carrying about his place of business, residence, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, any firearm, or from carrying the same, in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section, from any place of purchase to his residence or place of business, between his dwelling and his place of business, between one place of business or residence and another when moving, or between his dwelling or place of business and place where such firearms are repaired, for the purpose of repair. For the purposes of this section, a place of business shall be deemed to be a fixed location."

This was taken from the Hollow point section but it also applies to all ammunition.

Notice sealed box or locked case is stated not magazine unloaded from the firearm.

The law is exact words here more then anywhere else, I would stick with these words 100%.

 

As with other ammunition and firearms, a sportsman would have to comply with the provisions of N.J.S.A 2C:39-6f and g when transporting hollow nose ammunition to a target range. The ammunition should be stored in a closed and fastened container or locked in the trunk of the motor vehicle in which it is being transported. The course of travel should be as direct as possible when going to and leaving from the target range with "only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances." N.J.S.A 2C:39-6g.

 

Well this is from the state police's website, but I'll go with it. It STILL doesn't say whether or not the ammunition can or can not be in a magazine when transporting.

 

If I load up my mags and put them in a bag which has a zipper on it. If you follow this to the letter, it still complies with closed and fastened container.

Yes but when you transport the firearm you must unload the firearm and I would imagine the magazine as well, at least I would since it says to transport the ammo in a sealed box or locked case not in a removed magazine. I would love to get 10 minutes with a Lawyer who understands the firearms law's of NJ so he can fill in the various blanks.

Yes but when you transport the firearm you must unload the firearm and I would imagine the magazine as well, at least I would since it says to transport the ammo in a sealed box or locked case not in a removed magazine. I would love to get 10 minutes with a Lawyer who understands the firearms law's of NJ so he can fill in the various blanks.

 

I get where you are coming from. But.. on the other hand.. it doesn't say that you CAN'T Transport a loaded mag in a sealed container.

 

I doubt many attorneys would put their asses on the line for an issue like this which has no case law.

Right, wrong, or indifferent. My mags are usually charged prior to a range trip. No point wasting time on the clock.

I think I will write to the state firearms division and request a answer on this.

Either way I can care less, I just need to know now for sure.

I think I will write to the state firearms division and request a answer on this.

Either way I can care less, I just need to know now for sure.

 

Don't bother, I'll make the call. I got a 'in'. Have an answer by tomorrow.

 

ETA. Call made. Offical answer within the hour.

I think I will write to the state firearms division and request a answer on this.

Either way I can care less, I just need to know now for sure.

 

Well you obviously care mroe than "less" or else you wouldnt enve be writign them

 

I am interested in finding out myself. All I have ever heard is "You will get arrested for attempted murder"- Guy at the old Winchester range in Englishtown and John down at BA said DO NOT under any circumstances have a loaded mag in the car out of the gun or not

 

It does cut into time at the range, but its worth the risk of not being made an example of

 

Just my opinion. I know nothing about the restaurant business, nothing. I just know how to sit down order a meal

I think I will write to the state firearms division and request a answer on this.

Either way I can care less, I just need to know now for sure.

 

Well you obviously care mroe than "less" or else you wouldnt enve be writign them

 

I am interested in finding out myself. All I have ever heard is "You will get arrested for attempted murder"- Guy at the old Winchester range in Englishtown and John down at BA said DO NOT under any circumstances have a loaded mag in the car out of the gun or not

 

It does cut into time at the range, but its worth the risk of not being made an example of

 

Just my opinion. I know nothing about the restaurant business, nothing. I just know how to sit down order a meal

 

 

I think this another of those "Urban Legends" that get talked about at gunshops and ranges there is NOTHING in the statute that addresses loaded magazines, only that the FIREARM be unloaded and the ammunition kept separately.

I think I will write to the state firearms division and request a answer on this.

Either way I can care less, I just need to know now for sure.

 

Well you obviously care mroe than "less" or else you wouldnt enve be writign them

 

I am interested in finding out myself. All I have ever heard is "You will get arrested for attempted murder"- Guy at the old Winchester range in Englishtown and John down at BA said DO NOT under any circumstances have a loaded mag in the car out of the gun or not

 

It does cut into time at the range, but its worth the risk of not being made an example of

 

Just my opinion. I know nothing about the restaurant business, nothing. I just know how to sit down order a meal

 

 

I think this another of those "Urban Legends" that get talked about at gunshops and ranges there is NOTHING in the statute that addresses loaded magazines, only that the FIREARM be unloaded and the ammunition kept separately.

 

KDP-

 

So you are saying if you pull someone over and they have loaded mags in an ammo can, you don't arrest them?

My understanding was that as long as the ammo is separate from the firearm and in a sealed container then it is being transported lawfully.

 

There is nothing in the statutes that addresses whether the ammo is inside a magazine, inside the sealed container, or not.

 

Looking forward to any "official" clarification.

there is NOTHING in the statute that addresses loaded magazines, only that the FIREARM be unloaded and the ammunition kept separately.

 

 

This is the correct answer. There is NOTHING official beyond the stats already quoted.

there is NOTHING in the statute that addresses loaded magazines, only that the FIREARM be unloaded and the ammunition kept separately.

 

 

This is the correct answer. There is NOTHING official beyond the stats already quoted.

 

So its a yes or a no on the loaded mags?

 

So its a yes or a no on the loaded mags?

 

 

Maybe.

Exactly....

Exactly....

 

 

:| No. I just said "maybe" to be a dick. Because I refuse to believe that tiny is so helpless that he can't figure the fuck out three sentences.

 

Here it is boys and girls...If there is nothing saying you can't do something. What does that mean? Come on, say it with me...

YOU CAN!

Remember ,land of the freeish? Do whatever the hell you want until someone says you can't. Perfect example.

I was only adding to the confusion, should have added a smiley face or something.

I was only adding to the confusion, should have added a smiley face or something.

 

All sins are forgiven. You have a pass my son. For when ever I read one of your post, I will see this . Now let us be done with this nonsense and move on.....I say we need a 'Babe of the day' forum.

Did somebody say that "S" word again?

 

FEDERAL LAW

 

I was only adding to the confusion, should have added a smiley face or something.

 

All sins are forgiven. You have a pass my son. For when ever I read one of your post, I will see this . Now let us be done with this nonsense and move on.....I say we need a 'Babe of the day' forum.

 

 

And there was much Rejoicing....

Exactly....

 

 

:| No. I just said "maybe" to be a dick. Because I refuse to believe that tiny is so helpless that he can't figure the fugg out three sentences.

 

Here it is boys and girls...If there is nothing saying you can't do something. What does that mean? Come on, say it with me...

YOU CAN!

Remember ,land of the freeish? Do whatever the hell you want until someone says you can't. Perfect example.

 

Well the good news is you succeeded in being one!

 

Don't refuse to believe, when it comes to this sheet I am completely helpless!