Wont get jumped on by me. I never took the course myself but have directed others to that did and benifited from it. Bottom line in there IS a problem with liter bikes and new riders, no doubt about it.

Joeybones wrote:

I think in some other countries they have similar restrictions. I kinda agree a little bit , If you can ride a vespa doesn't mean you can ride a 1000 cc motorcycle. Unless it's a Harley cause they are so slow.

 

 

 

Dude why the Harley hate.

 

Sorry , I don't hate Harleys. I bought a new Sportster in 80 or 81 . Honda 360's were faster, there were lots of 2 stroke 250's still around that were way faster. Of course I looked cooler in their rear view mirrors and I was informed by my "Harley Bretheren" that a sporster is only a 1/2 a Harley.

Heres the facts. I had a long conversation the the regional director at Rider Insurance. Heres what he had to say. Liter bike sportbikes are an 8 out of 10 total loss in this state. And closing in on 9 out of 10. Their investigation exposed that MANY of these riders bought a GSXR/R1/CBR/ZX as their FIRST bike and that a good many of them took their road test on a freekin scooter. How well does a scooter prepare you for something that closes in on 150mph from a dead stop in about 10 seconds? The car analogy is not applicable here. The differences are extreme. Its more like does a few tries at the stick of a cessna make you good to go flying a jumbo jet? The impact of not having any kind of match to what you test out on vs what you actually ride is a startling amount of fatalities and total losses. Now on the if you wanna go kill yourself side, well I believe you have that right. But on the total loss side, now you affect me. Because of all these kids racking em up, the cost to insure a liter bike EVEN FOR MY +40 a** with 1 ticket ever over 20 years ago is well over 2k a year!!!!!!

 

 

yup... I agree it sets a reasonable standard for something that takes skill and discipline but MOST IMPORTANTLY is grossly abused.. I dont know shit about bikes so i stay off them.. i have seen FAR too many YOUNG kids run out and grab some form of obnoxious street bike, only to GROSSLY abuse its power on PUBLIC roads.. it is FAR too easy to get one and all the wrong people get them.. YOUNG kids after nothing but speed.. relatively cheap used when compared to a car.. and far more unsafe.. I am not saying this is the RIGHT answer and it solves all.. but at least it might make it harder for some young thick headed kid who thinks he owns the road to come flying up on the shoulder at 100+ mph as I am trying to merge onto the parkway..

 

nanny laws are stupid.. I dont think you should HAVE to wear a helmet if you dont want to.. but I also dont think some kid should be able to just run out and get a license on a very mild type of bike only to run out and grab some ridiculous bike that I am going to have to deal with!