I am not supporting him.. he is obviously a criminal.. just like I did not completely support BA... this guy had drugs.. and is going to jail.. fair enough.. but they paint the picture of a drug dealing thug with machine guns and 75 round drums... as someone pointed out in the view of some anything higher than the 10 round magazines some guns come with could for the sake of media sensationalism.. lets face it.. "guy wearing gun in holster tells pizza guy to come in.. police follow up investigation turns up small quantity of marijuana and cocaine" is a far different story than "man armed for end of world with assault rifles, body armor, and gas masks orders pizza guy into home police raid turns up amounts of cocaine and marijuana" I am not saying the guy is innocent.. or deserving of any sympathy.. but I am just saying the article does a poor job of conveying any substantial facts..

 

According to the latest article, this seems to be more likely... Though I sense a little media sensationalism is afoot.

 

32 round magazines? I thought it was a real **** to cram the 30th round in the top of a standard capacity AR mag.

 

The "rifle had a scope with an aim point attached to it." This might be police sensationalism. First, it's an Aimpoint (all one word, and a brand name). Second, it's nothing more than a red dot optic; the most common optic people put on an AR. They certainly aren't illegal or indicate anything nefarious by themselves.

 

"The loaded assault rifle and five loaded handguns were located near the entrance to the residence on a sofa and a loaded shotgun was located next to a second level window.

In addition to the loaded handguns, rifles and ammunition, a Threat Level IIIA bulletproof vest and gas mask were located in close proximity to the guns." Once again, unless this genius had kids in the house, there is nothing illegal about having 7 loaded guns in your home, nor is there anything illegal about possessing a gas mask or a bullet resistant vest (you just can't commit a crime while wearing one; which should be the law for hollow points, imo).

 

The article, and maybe the police, seem to make a bigger deal out of the guns than the drugs.

 

And as a quick aside for Sen. Greenwald. If 30 round magazines are banned by NJ law, how did this guy get one and, more importantly, how would his 10 round limit bill prevent him from getting the 30 round mag?

http://www.southjerseylocalnews.com/articles/2011/02/21/record_breeze/news/doc4d62913dc2667146217026.txt

 

The victim told police he knocked on the door of the residence to deliver food that had been ordered when white male opened the door, pointed a black handgun at him, and told him to come in.

 

According to the police report, a search of the residence led to the seizure of several rifles, including an AR15 type 5.56mm assault firearm, loaded with a high capacity magazine containing 32 rounds of ammunition, 19 of which were incendiary tracer ammunition.

 

This story contains a lot more details and is not a hatchet job just facts. Based on the facts presented, I hope the guy rots in prison.

This story contains a lot more details and is not a hatchet job just facts. Based on the facts presented, I hope the guy rots in prison.

 

Yeah, it is better. The ammo? 19 of which were incendiary tracer ammunition.

 

Of all the things to get creamed on in NJ, tracers is not the hill to die on. What a complete numbnutz.

The victim told police he knocked on the door of the residence to deliver food that had been ordered when white male opened the door, pointed a black handgun at him, and told him to come in.

 

Thank you for posting this. perhaps I have more insight to what actually happened vs how it is reported in the press after over 30 years as a LEO having been involved ion at least a couple of thousand incidents that made the press. To automatically take the criminal's side because he was arrested with guns does nothing to further the cause of 2A Rights. This thread is a perfect example of what we need to be careful of. People assumed:

 

was it a 30 round permanently altered to only hold 15, or was did it actually have a capacity > 15?

 

Why the conjecture? The article said high capacity magazine.

 

This could as easily be taken as he had a holstered gun

 

Same reason an armed person IN HIS OWN HOUSE with a HOLSTERED

 

There were several comments regarding this guy's "holstered gun". No where in the original article does it say the gun was holstered. It said he had a gun.

 

The victims perception of a legal act means jack.

 

That's a heck of a legal argument. I said:

 

The victim's perception of the situation as it fits the law not the violator's intent is the determining factor.

 

A perfect example would be the expression "I'm going to kick your a--". said many times in a joking manner and that depends on the victim's perception of the situation. Do I really think he's going to do that? Does it matter if the assailant says "I was only kidding". Telling someone "Come in the house" said unlike an invitation has three different meanings if the one who does the invitation is unarmed, has a holstered handgun, or is pointing a gun at you.

 

Contrary to a widespread belief on internet gun forums better than 99% of the time the police arrest someone is because they have broken a law. We may not agree with the law in some cases but until something is done to change it we have to just suck it up.

This guys an azzhole and belongs in jail. I wouldn't allow a pizza delivery guy in my house in the first place, let alone order him in while carrying a firearm. And when he gets back in his car he has no idea I own guns.

 

I hope all his weapons were obtained illegaly, had high capacity mags loaded with hollow point ammunition and his bag of weed was big enough where they will charge him with distribution. This would only prove our gun laws don't work. Otherwise we all look bad.

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when that happens assume that we agree with you.. B)