...The first one went back to SA for warranty work. Nothing major....

 

lol I told ya practically every one has to go back

but I must say thats a nice looking 1911

I have 2 taurus 1911's and like both of them.. I would purchase another one..

 

And for the mim parts, they are a stronger part than cast steel.. The mim parts are the reason why smiths replace all the parts when doing a trigger job because they cannot file them and are extremly hard to stone..

 

springfield also uses mim parts as they are also built in brazil..

 

This is an excellent buy for a gun under the 800.00 mark.

 

The smith and wesson pro series is above the top at around 1100-1200 for this pistol.The smith pro in 9mm is a very smooth shooter.

Tony,

I owned a Loaded, it was my first 1911. I was not impressed. I swapped it for a Colt Combat Commander which I stupidly sold. Now i want one back. I am a basic 1911 guy, my only feature I want are bomar sights and ambi safety. That being said... I would recomend HIGHLY you look at the Taurus 1911s. They have a ton of extra features that jack up the price on the SA and SW, they use the same frames as Springfield, made in the same plant in Brazil, and are about 60% the cost. This leaves much change rattling around for ammo.

 

 

Cant say enough about my Taurus Pt1911. ESPECIALLY for the price.

No, online dealer. PT1911SS 38 super

 

 

No, its not a *bad* gun since it does operate, but its not a good gun either no matter what price point you put it at. Here's a short list of the things i was very disappointed with:

 

1. poor barrel bushing fit. in full lockup, i could wiggle the barrel in the bushing and wiggle the bushing in the slide. double whammy!

2. proprietary sight dovetails. Lets break out the files...

3. sloppy frame rail tolerance (jiggles when you shake it). not a terrible issue since there's no issue with accuracy but its sloppy nonetheless.

4. poor rear frame/slide fit. slide overhangs frame a lot in the back. UGLY!

5. MIM slide stop pin had visible seam and not perfectly straight. had to buff that ridge out with stone and superfine wet/dry.

6. MIM sear had a completely rounded tip, absolutely no fitting was done outside of the hammer hooks.

7. advertised "beveled magwell" is a joke. a slight chamfer on the bottom of the frame edges does not make a "magwell".

8. tool marks all over the inside of the parts.

9. many of the part dimensions are cast so close to final spec, many parts don't get actually get touched by the mill. The frame slide rails were still rough in some spots because the mill never came in contact with them.

10. The rail the disconnector rides was like sandpaper, i don't even think the mill ever hit that.

11. barrel had excess axial movement when in lockup.

12. barrel hood sides were filed on an angle to clear the breech slot. so sloppy.

13. barrel lower lugs had uneven contact with the pivot pin.

14. breech face wasn't milled square! WTF! This pissed me off more than any of the other junk on this gun.

15. ambi-safety lever on right side is loose and easy to pull out

 

What did the selling dealer have to say about all this?

 

You also have to remember you purchased an upgraded gi gun and not a competition gun.

 

The mim parts are one of the reasons the gun is much cheaper cause they are cast to spec no fitting required.

I have 2 taurus 1911's and like both of them.. I would purchase another one..

What models do you have and do you find any similar characteristics to the list i put up? I'm curious to see if these are common traits on taurus guns.

 

And for the mim parts, they are a stronger part than cast steel.. The mim parts are the reason why smiths replace all the parts when doing a trigger job because they cannot file them and are extremly hard to stone..

 

springfield also uses mim parts as they are also built in brazil..

I believe the hammer is MIM also, and they had no problem cutting the hammer hooks for full and half cock. Why couldn't they do the sear as well? Its not because they can't machine MIM. Now, please notice that i'm not knocking the use of MIM for reasons of strength, i recognize that its an acceptable manufacturing method for parts that are under stress/load. My gripe is with the poor tolerances of these various parts.

 

This is an excellent buy for a gun under the 800.00 mark.

 

There's absolutely no way this gun would be worth $800 street price. The list of great guns at or under $800 is staggering and most all will have far better construction the closer you go to the end of that range. If they sold for 800, for a couple hundred more you can have a much better crafted 1911 from a slew of manufacturers. For the money i paid, again, it isn't bad but i guess i expected a bit more as i've never had a gun this sloppy and rough looking outside of a mosin nagant. I bought it for s apecific purpose as a project so as long as it runs reliably, i'll be satisfied, but know that its no prom queen.

JonF... One question here remains to be asked. How does it shoot? Reliable? Accurate? Because we could be talking Ford f150 vs Toyota Tundra here.

Dunno yet. I picked it up for a project where i need to fit a different caliber barrel to it so i have not run a single round of 38 super through it.

both of my taurus 1911's do not have anything on your list..

 

that is why i asked what the dealer had to say ?

 

both are in 38 super..

 

I will bring both of mine sunday to the steel match bring yours i would like to see it..

 

I have amt hardballer.

 

springfield nra 125th anniversary edition .45. never fired..

 

2 taurus.

 

have shot kimbers, s&w pro and so on. A couple of members know my 2 taurus 1911's and have fired them..

I know mike (his username)shot my Pt1911 and he shoots enough .45 to reload his own and he certainly had no complaints with it.

 

Mine is accurate with NO hiccups in abt 500 rounds now.

Tony, i'll def try to bring mine sunday so we can compare. I've since looked at a couple more PT1911's in the gun shop to compare and i saw similar things such as slide overhang and sloppy magwell bevel but can't really fully compare unless i take down the guns which isn't always a possibility at the store. Again, some of these are nitpicky but do not affect function.

 

I have not contacted the dealer *yet* for a couple reasons. 1, i've not seen enough taurus guns to be sure this is an anomaly. 2, If i were to send it back, whats the chances i get one that's actually better (or doesn't just swap problem a for problem B)? Do i ask the buy to take it down and mic some of the parts before choosing one? For $450, i guess it is what it is and i'm not sure its worth wasting another permit to swap quite yet. I'll have to wait a eval it some more after comparing.

 

Mikey, we're talking about 2 totally different things here.

Has anyone tried out or own a Sig 1911? I didn't even know they made 1911's! They have that "Sig" look to them, but I think they look sweet! I wonder if they are any good?

Has anyone tried out or own a Sig 1911?

 

 

There were problems with the first generation 1911's from Sig. That was when they learned the end result isn't necessarily just a sum of the total parts. Since then, though, I have heard nothing but good things about them.

 

I carry a Sig RCS which is a CCO* version. This is a lightweight with alloy frame. Also equipped with Novak night sights and a melt-job from the custom shop. Has eaten everything I've fed it and is more accurate than I am. Current diet = 230 gr Gold Dot HP's.

 

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

 

*Officer's model frame with a Commander (4.25") top end

hey Bob, what grips are those?

hey Bob, what grips are those?

 

 

Davidson - Larry and his son both make this pattern. Similar to the ones they do for Wilson. I really like G-10 grips - it's the grip that grips you back. Initially I was concerned that the agressiveness of the G-10 would snag cover garments, but that hasn't been the case. I now have three guns with G-10 grips on them.

 

Here's Larry's website...

 

http://www.davidsonknives.com/grips/grips.htm

 

(seems to be down right now). His son sells via Ebay - just search for "G10 Grips". Either of them will make pretty much anything you want.

 

HTH

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

lol I told ya practically every one has to go back

but I must say thats a nice looking 1911

 

 

On the 1911 forums I saw more then a fair share of Smith and Wesson 1911s having to go back to the factory for warranty work.

Anyone here have a S&W Pro Series 1911 in .45acp? How does it shoot? Anyone know how it compares to the Sig 1911s?

Anyone here have a S&W Pro Series 1911 in .45acp? How does it shoot? Anyone know how it compares to the Sig 1911s?

 

GlennP has one. Look further up in this thread, he posted pics of it. I've shot it and it's a sweet shooter. I have never shot a Sig 1911, but I like the way they look.

GlennP has one. Look further up in this thread, he posted pics of it. I've shot it and it's a sweet shooter. I have never shot a Sig 1911, but I like the way they look.

 

Thanks Tony, his does appear to be a .45acp.

Yep, mine is .45 ACP...and I love it!

Tony, you make a decision yet?

Tony, you make a decision yet?

 

I wish... It's tough trying to decide on this. There are so many guns that I really like. I have to admit I have been looking more and more at the new "E" series S&W's... The fish scale serrations are starting to grow on me a little.

 

Even though I will have the Beretta 92A1, I do like a lot of other 9mm pistols too... and contemplating buying a 2nd 9mm. So, I really have no idea which gun I'm going to choose.

 

Decisions, decisions, decisions...

just buy a smith and be done with it already! You are worse than jeremy lol

just buy a smith and be done with it already! You are worse than jeremy lol

 

Or buy anything you'd like and become a complete gun snob on that particular model..lol

just buy a smith and be done with it already! You are worse than jeremy lol

 

LOL! We'll see man... I just spent a ton on the reloading stuff and supplies so I have to see what kind of funds I'll have available! LOL!

I just got my Springfield 1911, its beautiful but its not special to me.

 

if i did it again i would go S&W for shooting, Springfield for Show

Well, I finally made up my mind and ordered an S&W 1911 from Buds Gun Shop a few minutes ago! I ended up going with the new E Series Tactical. I know that a lot of people don't like rails on 1911's... but I do. I'm not a purist... and I think they look cool. I also like having the option of adding a light or laser if I want to. It also has trijicon night sights as well. Now I just have to wait another 26 days until I can use my next permit and pick it up from Jim Flynn's shop. Here's the model I picked up:

 

I want one. How much did it run you brother?

I want one. How much did it run you brother?

 

I PM'd you.

Beautiful, congrats. Let us know how she shoots!

I like the E series they look sharp. Good choice picking the Smith.