Actually let me re-clarify being some will say the they kept mags loaded and the springs were shot and needed to be replaced.

 

The steel used to make springs can degrade overtime, corrosion is one way, the other way is being compressed beyond there load limit normally over a lengthy period of time, however a spring being compressed within it's load limit will retain it's functionality. Also a spring will wear out from being cycled.

 

So to say you keep a mag fully loaded it may be at it's limit, so it may be a good idea to keep 1 or 2 less rounds loaded if you plan on keeping then in working order over a long period of time.

 

Good to know! Thanks.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand. I spent some time reading about Ruger's SR9 and SR9c. Watched a hole bunch of You Tube videos on them as well. I love the idea of the 17-round mag, but we know that's not possible in NJ. It's a shame there's nothing between the 17 and the 10 for these guns. I guess the 10-rounds is still better than a lesser amount from some of the other alternatives.

you might want to check out Futool's new Sig 2022 on another thread. Great price for a Sig!

 

this one: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/28434-sig-pro-sp2022-9mm/page__pid__371993#entry371993

Anyway, back to the subject at hand. I spent some time reading about Ruger's SR9 and SR9c. Watched a hole bunch of You Tube videos on them as well. I love the idea of the 17-round mag, but we know that's not possible in NJ. It's a shame there's nothing between the 17 and the 10 for these guns. I guess the 10-rounds is still better than a lesser amount from some of the other alternatives.

 

Ruger makes decent revolvers, but the semi autos are pure trash.... well, no, mediocre. The trigger is horrid on them, but most of all... why? when there are so many other comparable firearms price wise.

Ruger makes decent revolvers, but the semi autos are pure trash.... well, no, mediocre. The trigger is horrid on them, but most of all... why? when there are so many other comparable firearms price wise.

 

What? Are you kidding me? Ruger's semi-auto's are very reliable, cheap, and will hold their own against ANY other gun in their class.

What? Are you kidding me? Ruger's semi-auto's are very reliable, cheap, and will hold their own against ANY other gun in their class.

 

 

I have to agree with you Ray. I've never had a problem with my SR9c.

I have to agree with you Ray. I've never had a problem with my SR9c.

 

Looks like someone is gonna add to his signature line...

I am not sure I agree with that. I think the lcp and the lc9 are better than average in their class but the rest of the pistols (excluding the 1911) are below average in their class.

+1 for the M&P9 with an Apex trigger

Eaa witness compact perfect for the night stand..reliable and accurate without breaking the budget..And best of all it fits 1911 holster..

 

EDIT: in steel i hate plastic..But just like mcdonalds you can have it your way.

 

If you like to try my S&W M&P full size 9mm. I'm 5 minutes away from your home range.

15 round mags are easy to come by for it.

 

I have put thousands of rounds through it with ZERO failures. At least ones that weren't user induced( improper seating of mag).

To the OP, I would suggest the XD9. It has a lot of safety features built in.

A semi-auto is much harder to operate than a revolver for a beginner. If your wife is going to go to the range and practice with the semi, then fine. But, if she never shoots it, doesn't shoot it much on her own, with training, she won't be able to use it in a high stress situation. The revolver, is grab and go.

To the OP, I would suggest the XD9. It has a lot of safety features built in.

 

The best safety is keeping your finger off the trigger, I would not base a gun purchase on the amount of safety features built into it. Function and reliability yes.

If you like to try my S&W M&P full size 9mm. I'm 5 minutes away from your home range.

15 round mags are easy to come by for it.

 

I have put thousands of rounds through it with ZERO failures. At least ones that weren't user induced( improper seating of mag).

 

Thanks. I appreciate the offer. I'll let you know if I'd like to take you up on the offer.

A semi-auto is much harder to operate than a revolver for a beginner. If your wife is going to go to the range and practice with the semi, then fine. But, if she never shoots it, doesn't shoot it much on her own, with training, she won't be able to use it in a high stress situation. The revolver, is grab and go.

 

Trust me, I've been seriously thinking about that. Although I can't immediately think of a reason she'd need to use it because I'm wasn't there, I can just picture her fumbling around with it, looking for a safety or racking it or whatever. As you said, with the revolver, it would be pick it up, aim and shoot until empty or the threat has been taken care of. I still can't get past the concern of only having 6 or 8 rounds with the revolver though.

I still can't get past the concern of only having 6 or 8 rounds with the revolver though.

 

 

You only need one.

 

Quality, not quantity.

You only need one.

 

Quality, not quantity.

 

Thats not going to happen in the heat of the moment.

 

Hence" two local cops recently putting 14 rounds in a guy who came at them with a knife.

I don't know what the hell to do. Maybe I should just forget about the nightstand pistol and keep the 870 loaded and next to the bed. The problem with that is that I'd probably have to get out of bed to fire, instead of just reaching for the handgun and firing.

Thats not going to happen in the heat of the moment.

 

Hence" two local cops recently putting 14 rounds in a guy who came at them with a knife.

 

I'd imagine when you hear stories like this it's due to where the shots are fired by the officers due to being "politically correct". For example, if half those shots were to the skull, I'd expect the outcome to be different. The problem is everyone would be out for the officer's a** if they started shooting people in the head. Remember, there goal is not to kill.

Thats not going to happen in the heat of the moment.

 

Hence" two local cops recently putting 14 rounds in a guy who came at them with a knife.

 

 

If they actually hit him 14 times that's pretty darn good. I think FBI statistics showed a hit percentage among LEO's of 23%. Among civilian shooters it was 68%.

 

Not advocating a single-shot weapon for HD, even with a revolver you have 5 to 8 rounds (actually 10 rounds if you want to include .22 LR) with which to score. Just saying don't dismiss a revolver based solely on round count, shot placement is THE most important factor..

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

I don't know what the hell to do. Maybe I should just forget about the nightstand pistol and keep the 870 loaded and next to the bed. The problem with that is that I'd probably have to get out of bed to fire, instead of just reaching for the handgun and firing.

 

Something wrong with having the shotty and a handgun??

. Just saying don't dismiss a revolver based solely on round count, shot placement is THE most important factor..

 

 

 

What Bob says, I doubt this would be agreed upon by most shooters, but I think a few would agree, if I were to have only 1 gun for protection, It would be a revolver.

 

That being said, we don't have to limit it to 1, also not sure if it was mentioned, just like picking out a gun, you need to shoot it to see if it's right for you, well a gun used for protection should be one you can shoot proficiently.

If you don't like the Glock 19, I will buy it "used" from you.

The M&P(at least my model)and Glocks have no manual safety.

 

Pull it out of the holster and fire till empty. You also get more shots then a revolver.

 

 

 

 

A semi-auto is much harder to operate than a revolver for a beginner. If your wife is going to go to the range and practice with the semi, then fine. But, if she never shoots it, doesn't shoot it much on her own, with training, she won't be able to use it in a high stress situation. The revolver, is grab and go.

Something wrong with having the shotty and a handgun??

 

Works for me! I think it's the perfect combo.

To t_i_n, I hope you're kidding about being too lazy to get out of bed to shoot an intruder.

Trust me, I've been seriously thinking about that. Although I can't immediately think of a reason she'd need to use it because I'm wasn't there, I can just picture her fumbling around with it, looking for a safety or racking it or whatever. As you said, with the revolver, it would be pick it up, aim and shoot until empty or the threat has been taken care of. I still can't get past the concern of only having 6 or 8 rounds with the revolver though.

 

My wife had a difficult time racking the slide on my Sig so I went out and purchased a Taurus 605 .357 and changed to some inexpensive but very comfortable Hogue grips. we did the NRA course,she shot and practiced with it and a speed loader and now is quite comfortable with it. It now resides in the bed stand along with a speedloader and tactical flashlight. Am I confident she will know exactly what to do if the the occasion arises? Not entirely but at the very least it gives her a fighting chance...

Works for me! I think it's the perfect combo.

To t_i_n, I hope you're kidding about being too lazy to get out of bed to shoot an intruder.

 

What I meant was if the occasion surfaced where I had to reach for my gun in an instant, I'd be able to do that with a handgun on the nightstand, not so much with the shotgun a close to the bed as possible.

What I meant was if the occasion surfaced where I had to reach for my gun in an instant, I'd be able to do that with a handgun on the nightstand, not so much with the shotgun a close to the bed as possible.

 

Yeah, I was just kiddin' with ya a little bit. Seriously, I envision that if I ever had to confront an intruder, I would get up out of bed, reach for my firearms (probably the shotgun first), and get in a defensive position to use them. I guess it depends to some extent on the proximity of one's bedroom to the intruder's point of entry. Mine is on the second floor, so I'm hoping I would hear the entry and have time to do what I described above. Better still would be if I had time to put on hearing protection, but that might be asking a lot.

What I meant was if the occasion surfaced where I had to reach for my gun in an instant, I'd be able to do that with a handgun on the nightstand, not so much with the shotgun a close to the bed as possible.

A dog, even a small ankle biter, makes a great early warning system. You need to think of a layered approach when securing your home. The gun is absolutely the last layer.