Ironically, if you did purchase legally in NJ, the gun is registered with NJ and the police should be able to easily confirm this from the gun's S/N via their car's computer/communication.

I don't care if they know the statute or don't know the statute..

 

I care that they may perceive an innocent individual as a criminal because he is not transporting around a copy of his permit to purchase a pistol.. (for example)

and real or not real.. it is not isolated to him.. I am friends with LEO that I have had to explain the law to.. which is to be blunt.. a fairly awkward experience..

 

to be honest education works..

 

over half of the Philly PD thought they knew the rules regarding CCW/LTCF... they were flat out WRONG.. and got schooled.. since then numerous memos have gone out explaining the correct procedure... and we no longer seem to see the CCW problems we used to see in Philly..

This guy seems unwilling to be schooled. He's stubborn.

Must resist... urge... to... troll!

So we don't need any paperwork. It's up to the state to prove the gun is illegally obtained. Correct?

 

Not exactly. I mean, you are right, in the sense that is how it is suppose to work. However we live in a police state within a police state (NJ in the US) so there is a real possibility that you could be charged with a crime you did not commit. Because the prosecutor represents the state, and the judge works for the state, you have everything going AGAINST you, and though legally, the burden of proof is on the prosecution, it actually works the other way. You will have to prove your innocents. Messed up isn't it?

You don't need to carry copies of your P2P when you transport your hand gun.

 

 

15 years ago we were checked shooting in a pit by rangers..

3 of us shooting at private pit..

none of us had copies of our pp's the rangers ran our serial #s and went on their way after joking about having to carry the dessert eagle..The ranger said if we had copies they would not have had to run our serial #s these rangers were pretty cool and new the law.

Took about 15 minutes and they were on their way..

We were shooting for quite some time, skeet, rifle and pistol.. Having our trash in a bag also went a long way yep they searched our trash.. HAHAHA..

 

EDIT: they only ran our pistol serial #s ?

KPD - my hat is off to you. Well done!

 

I need to go refill my popcorn bowl now... this is going to be good

Doesn't matter where you got it, if the gun is legal to have here in NJ and you obtained the gun legally you are good.

 

So what if i got an 03 C&R and had C&R guns sent to an address outside of NJ then brought them home. Would i be legal?

So what if i got an 03 C&R and had C&R guns sent to an address outside of NJ then brought them home. Would i be legal?

From what i understand you could have them sent to your house in NJ.

AWESOME KPD!!! Thank you for the entertainment!

 

It boggles my mind that nothing can be done about the false arrest. After pissing away probably a few thousand on defending yourself you should have the ability to sue the PD successfully for those funds back due to LEO stupidity. Maybe then they will take the education of the law seriously.

From what i understand you could have them sent to your house in NJ.

 

I could be wrong but i was under the impression it was fully legal on the federal level but NJ doesn't allow it.

I could be wrong but i was under the impression it was fully legal on the federal level but NJ doesn't allow it.

That may be the case. I've only read the federal laws in regards.

That may be the case. I've only read the federal laws in regards.

 

I did some quick research and from what i can tell it is definitly illegal to have a c&r gun mailed to you in NJ. However I cant find an answer about buying a c&r out of state and bringing it home with you..

thats funny then when i moved here i shoulda been arrested on the spot for my pistols

thats funny then when i moved here i shoulda been arrested on the spot for my pistols

 

It is legal to ship guns to yourself, when you already own them.

Ironically, if you did purchase legally in NJ, the gun is registered with NJ and the police should be able to easily confirm this from the gun's S/N via their car's computer/communication.

 

Not even close

So what if i got an 03 C&R and had C&R guns sent to an address outside of NJ then brought them home. Would i be legal?

 

No, they would have to be sent to the Address of Record for the 03 FFL

Ironically, if you did purchase legally in NJ, the gun is registered with NJ and the police should be able to easily confirm this from the gun's S/N via their car's computer/communication.

 

Not even close

 

Seriously? You mean there's no central database of registered guns readily available to police in the field? There should be.

Seriously? You mean there's no central database of registered guns readily available to police in the field? There should be.

 

So does the address on the c&r have to be the address on your DL? Could theoreticaly use relatiaves address in pa or a p.o box?

Seriously? You mean there's no central database of registered guns readily available to police in the field? There should be.

 

What is your point? Where does all the gun registration data go and who has access to it?

Seriously? You mean there's no central database of registered guns readily available to police in the field? There should be.

 

 

 

Seriously? You mean there's no central database of registered guns readily available to police in the field? There should be.

 

Seriously?

 

Edit: Watch the above video. I think you might change your opinion afterwards.

Seriously? You mean there's no central database of registered guns readily available to police in the field? There should be.

OMG PROBLEM

ur askin for even more monitoring of us law abiding citizens

I must have not been clear in my posts. I'm not in favor of a gun registry. My point is that it already exists, doesn't it, every time we buy a gun in NJ from an FFL?

 

Honestly, I thought that if someone was pulled over by the police that FID status would pop up when the plates or drivers license was run.

Only Handguns acquired while a NJ resident are registered. It is not easy to obtain this info by patrol. There must be a reason for the inquiry.

It is not easy to obtain this info by patrol. There must be a reason for the inquiry.

 

This is as it should be imo.

for leo's, if you pullover someone, does your squad car system once punch in our license plate and dl or dipatch checks on a different system and tell you that we have a njfid and possibly own a handgun, then assumes we have it in the car?

i always have the impression that when pullover by a leo to inform first hand that i have a firearm in the vehicle that im transporting to and from and offcourse following guidelines on transporting a firearm.

 

i always have the impression that when pullover by a leo to inform first hand that i have a firearm in the vehicle that im transporting to and from and offcourse following guidelines on transporting a firearm.

 

The last thing you should ever do is volunteer information.

Not every squad car has a computer. My guess is less than half. And no, not all that is available.