The issue I have is that he met her while she was a freshman, he was in a position of authority over her, and he decided to start a dating relationship with her. If you honestly believe there was no sexual contact prior to her 18th birthday, I would be shocked.

 

This is why it is creepy. It was not a relationship between peers. We have to be able to trust our teachers because they are in a position of responsibility, authority, and leadership.

 

Also, the guy's daughter goes to the same high school. How embarrassing is this for that poor kid?

Maybe in West Virginia and only if it's your sister. Are you serious? Do you really not see the problem here? Do you really think it's becoming a normal trend?

 

Do you not see the problem with us all owning dangerious assualt rifles and handguns we could easily potentially rob a bank or shoot up a school with?

 

I don't see the difference in us and him, and it seems we have in common that everyone else seems to hate us for not doing anything illegal. Just becuase some people someplace think its "wrong"

 

Everyone's idea of whats "wrong" is different. If you want the world to do exactly as you like you better get into politics now, or start investing in a large stash of nuclear warheads. If what they're doing is not hurting anyone and its making them happy and its LEGAL I don't see the problem...and moreover I don't see why you're searching and scraping to come up with one. Remind you of a certain group of people?

This is why it is creepy. It was not a relationship between peers. We have to be able to trust our teachers because they are in a position of responsibility, authority, and leadership.

 

Also, the guy's daughter goes to the same high school. How embarrassing is this for that poor kid?

 

If you were a teacher at X small town high school for 20 years do you know how many kids you would of interacted with? Are you saying every single one of them is off the table forever just becuase at some point you were in the same school together as teacher/student?

 

 

It is embarrasing and it's a shitty thing for the guy to do from a parent prespective and a relationship perspective. That doesn't mean he's not well within his rights of doing so and persuing his personal happiness. If there were laws about how you can live you life this wouldn't be a free country....oh wait...

Do you not see the problem with us all owning dangerious assualt rifles and handguns we could easily potentially rob a bank or shoot up a school with?

 

I don't see the difference in us and him, and it seems we have in common that everyone else seems to hate us for not doing anything illegal. Just becuase some people someplace think its "wrong"

 

Everyone's idea of whats "wrong" is different. If you want the world to do exactly as you like you better get into politics now, or start investing in a large stash of nuclear warheads. If what they're doing is not hurting anyone and its making them happy and its LEGAL I don't see the problem...and moreover I don't see why you're searching and scraping to come up with one. Remind you of a certain group of people?

 

 

... and when you see one of my many posts that talk about and refer to the "destruction of our society", it's because of opinions and thoughts just like this that have given me that opinion.

... and when you see one of my many posts that talk about and refer to the "destruction of our society", it's because of opinions and thoughts just like this that have given me that opinion.

 

Your opinion you're intitled to. Pourposly blocking someone from the persuit of happiness just becuase you don't agree with them you are not.

 

 

Although most would like to believe they are *cough anti's cough cough*

If you were a teacher at X small town high school for 20 years do you know how many kids you would of interacted with? Are you saying every single one of them is off the table forever just becuase at some point you were in the same school together as teacher/student?

 

 

It is embarrasing and it's a shitty thing for the guy to do from a parent prespective and a relationship perspective. That doesn't mean he's not well within his rights of doing so and persuing his personal happiness. If there were laws about how you can live you life this wouldn't be a free country....oh wait...

 

 

 

Sometimes you need to exercise a little bit of common sense to understand that not everything that is legal is moral or the right thing to do. That's my opinion, so to me, that's all that matters until convinced otherwise. In this particular case, no one will convice otherwise. So yes, in my opinion, if you don't agree with my opinion on this, you are wrong in my mind. What's the problem with that. Just as you excercise your right to agree that this f*cking pervert has the right to do this, I have my right to consider you no better than him for agreeing with it.

Sometimes you need to exercise a little bit of common sense to understand that not everything that is legal is moral or the right thing to do. That's my opinion, so to me, that's all that matters until convinced otherwise. In this particular case, no one will convice otherwise. So yes, in my opinion, if you don't agree with my opinion on this, you are wrong in my mind. What's the problem with that. Just as you excercise your right to agree that this f*cking pervert has the right to do this, I have my right to consider you no better than him for agreeing with it.

 

You realize exactly who you sound like correct?

 

I could not care less about how you consider me sir, in fact I find the hostility of this post as well as they hypocrisy of such a standpoint quite comical.

 

An open mind is a wonderful thing, However closed minds still manage to flow one way...

You realize exactly who you sound like correct?

 

I could not care less about how you consider me sir, in fact I find the hostility of this post as well as they hyporacy of such a standpoint quite comical.

 

An open mind is a wonderful thing, However closed minds still manage to flow one way...

 

 

Never said I had an open mind. Never will. Certain things are not negotiable as far as I'm concerned. This is one of those things. You're within your right to feel however you'd like about it, as do I.

 

Everyone's idea of whats "wrong" is different. If you want the world to do exactly as you like you better get into politics now, or start investing in a large stash of nuclear warheads. If what they're doing is not hurting anyone and its making them happy and its LEGAL I don't see the problem...and moreover I don't see why you're searching and scraping to come up with one. Remind you of a certain group of people?

 

I think this is where you may be going off track. It is not true that everyone's idea of what's wrong is different. We most likely agree that rape is wrong. We most likely agree that premeditated murder is wrong. We most likely agree that stealing is wrong. Our laws are based on morality. Moreover, whether you like it or not, our laws used to be based on an absolute moral code. Unfortunately, the trend in recent decades is to base laws on relative morality, which ultimately leads to no morals at all.

 

In this case, yes, it is probably legal. But that does not make it morally right. It may not be illegal to be outrageously selfish, but it is morally wrong. You say they are not hurting anyone, but that is not correct. He is hurting his wife and kids. When we marry, we make a commitment to someone. When we have kids, it makes the commitment even more necessary. (As full disclosure, I am divorced and remarried, but my first wife has some substance abuse issues and was abusive to the kids. I understand that stuff happens in life and people get divorced.)

 

So this guy has broken his commitment to his wife and to his kids. IMO, when the family breaks down, society breaks down. When we condone a person's completely selfish pursuit of happiness, at the expense of his own family, then we have some serious issues with our society.

 

We do not have an unlimited moral right to do whatever makes us feel good. Our spouses and our children are not disposable items.

Not that I'm advocating this, but if it was good enough for a hardy slap on the back for our 42nd president, then why wouldn't a 41 year old teacher assume that everything wasn't ok with this? Hardy har-har, chuckle, wink wink in the back rooms of the White House with the Ms. Rodham out of town.

 

And as a father of two girls, I'd personally bust his knee caps.

 

You know it just seems like yesterday and Monica was crawling around the oval office, man how time flies..

I appreciate your level of intelligence in such a post rdsmith3.

 

 

What I am saying is this, while laws are based on morality they are also based on the effect on the victim.

 

 

Does what he did hurt anyone? absolutly. It hurts his family without a doubt. However as you said and although I feel bad about the reality of this situation in todays world divorce/breakup is a very common part of our society. As you clearly understand it is not always bad, it is certainly not always good. However that is for the individual to decide. What I am arguing here is that this case in legaly (also moraly in my opinion) is really no different then this same man leaving his wife and kid for a 40 year old woman. 40 and 18 are both consenting adults I don't see why they should be held to a different standard.

 

also to add another point of semi-moot nature. We don't know the background of his family. They could of been having problems for years... his wife could be an terrible person. who really knows?

That is outrageous!

 

 

Over 8000 text messages exchanged? They better be on the unlimited texting plan...

I think this is where you may be going off track. It is not true that everyone's idea of what's wrong is different. We most likely agree that rape is wrong. We most likely agree that premeditated murder is wrong. We most likely agree that stealing is wrong. Our laws are based on morality. Moreover, whether you like it or not, our laws used to be based on an absolute moral code. Unfortunately, the trend in recent decades is to base laws on relative morality, which ultimately leads to no morals at all.

 

In this case, yes, it is probably legal. But that does not make it morally right. It may not be illegal to be outrageously selfish, but it is morally wrong. You say they are not hurting anyone, but that is not correct. He is hurting his wife and kids. When we marry, we make a commitment to someone. When we have kids, it makes the commitment even more necessary. (As full disclosure, I am divorced and remarried, but my first wife has some substance abuse issues and was abusive to the kids. I understand that stuff happens in life and people get divorced.)

 

So this guy has broken his commitment to his wife and to his kids. IMO, when the family breaks down, society breaks down. When we condone a person's completely selfish pursuit of happiness, at the expense of his own family, then we have some serious issues with our society.

 

We do not have an unlimited moral right to do whatever makes us feel good. Our spouses and our children are not disposable items.

 

 

Beautifully put.