I must say though I'm sick of the whole race card being thrown around. Apparently you can only be racist and committ hate crimes if you're white.

 

I'm still waiting for the protests and outrage over the 13 year old that was set on fire. Where's Al Sharpton when you need him...

 

You may be by far the most bi-polar person on this forum!

You may be by far the most bi-polar person on this forum!

 

I don't think he is bi polar , I think he is open minded. There is nothing wrong with your opinion evolving as more facts come to light. . It's better than being stubborn and sticking to your original guns because of ego issues. Not that anyone here did that , bit it is a common human trait.

I don't think he is bi polar , I think he is open minded. There is nothing wrong with your opinion evolving as more facts come to light. . It's better than being stubborn and sticking to your original guns because of ego issues. Not that anyone here did that , bit it is a common human trait.

 

How much clearer the thought process is without testosterone.... :wild:

Oh no way. Women are much more volatile . You want to see forum member drama ? Go to a mothering forum , pretend to be an expecting mom , and ask if you should routine circumcise your son when he arrives. Then duck and cover.

 

 

And what better way to sneak stuff through than to divide the country by race?

 

It's the easiest way. Keep us divided and they will conquer.

 

 

You may be by far the most bi-polar person on this forum!

 

I never claimed this to be a racial issue I just tried to keep an open mind. Some people here are so quick to condemn Martin and exonerate Zimmerman when there aren't enough facts there to do so. I think that isn't any better than the people calling for Zimmerman's head and claiming Martin was a sweet innocent child. I've tried to keep an open mind and see the facts. Some of our discussions have changed my opinion. I've never claimed either was innocent or guilty just trying to point out that there's a lot missing for us to just let Zimmerman go. I don't think anyone here can claim without a shadow of a doubt that Z is innocent and that's really my point all along.

 

 

I don't think he is bi polar , I think he is open minded. There is nothing wrong with your opinion evolving as more facts come to light. . It's better than being stubborn and sticking to your original guns because of ego issues. Not that anyone here did that , bit it is a common human trait.

 

Thanks you! My opinion on the case has evolved because of good discussion. We all need to take a step back and look at it from both sides.

Oh no way. Women are much more volatile . You want to see forum member drama ? Go to a mothering forum , pretend to be an expecting mom , and ask if you should routine circumcise your son when he arrives. Then duck and cover.

 

Have trouble taking a compliment...Do ya?

Have trouble taking a compliment...Do ya?

lol , no not at all. Just thinking out loud really. Women's forums are brutal. They take cyber debating to a no holds barred cagefigting level. I admin a mothering forum and a child photography forum. Right now I am preparing to lock a thread about a photographer's right to photograph children in public places without the parent's permission. Women on there are practically calling each other out over it. The poor male photographer who took the pictures stated correctly that you are allowed to photograph children at a park and some of the women are calling him a pervert..one woman told him to change his screen name to something that I won't repeat here . And then other women are rushing to his defense. They are literally pulling cyber hair and cyber biting.

 

And women never forget. They'll have one forum disagreement and never ever get along or agree on anything ever again.

Right now I am preparing to lock a thread about a photographer's right to photograph children in public places without the parent's permission. Women on there are practically calling each other out over it. The poor male photographer who took the pictures stated correctly that you are allowed to photograph children at a park and some of the women are calling him a pervert..

 

Learn something new every day [even in a place you don't expect it]. I'm surprised it's legal, I wouldn't want strangers taking pictures of my kids if I had any. But I digress.

Thanks you! My opinion on the case has evolved because of good discussion. We all need to take a step back and look at it from both sides.

 

As has mine. There are facts and evidence pertaining to this case that I saw here first and in some cases I ONLY saw here . Like the uncut unedited 911 call. That was not widely published , but a member here posted it . Otherwise I would not have found out until today that the reported 911 call was strategically edited by the unscrupulous powers that be in the media.

Learn something new every day [even in a place you don't expect it]. I'm surprised it's legal, I wouldn't want strangers taking pictures of my kids if I had any. But I digress.

 

 

Learn something new every day [even in a place you don't expect it]. I'm surprised it's legal, I wouldn't want strangers taking pictures of my kids if I had any. But I digress.

 

Yep , it is legal , but it is not ethical. And that is what the debate is about. One half saying how unethical , and the other half saying we as a society have become PC driven wusses.

 

In a nutshell , so as not to totally derail this thread , you can photograph anything or anyone in a public area ( the only exceptions are military and other specific high security areas). If you can see it from the sidewalk or any public area , you can photograph it as long as you are not violating "perceived privacy" such as someone in their home , on their own property , in a restroom or changing room.

 

So you can photograph someone of any age in a public place..you can also publish it for pay or for free if it is "public interest"..i.e in the local paper or magazine saying "look at the kids in the great new park the town built" . What you CAN'T do without a model release is use a persons image to advertise yourself , your business , another business , or a product using the image , or sell it purely for profit i.e in an art gallery . You need a model release for anything like that.

 

Famous people are plagued by this. Since they , as a result of being celebrities , are deemed "of public interest" or "newsworthy" they wind up with their image or their kids images being plastered in US and People magazine , etc. Their image however STILL can't be used for self promotion. For instance , if I took some pictures of Bruce Springsteen at the Stone Pony and they were published in The Aquarian. It would be allowed because it was news. But , I would not be allowed to take those pictures , and publish them on my photography portfolio for the purpose of advertising my photography skills/business.

 

Sorry for derailing..off to moderate my imploding photography forum now .

NBC NEWS,

 

We are sorry for Editing the 1911 call and making Zimmerman look like a Racist..

 

I Am Guessing Zimmerman will have the money to pay his medical Bills..

This IMO.....is the most appauling, lynch mob tactics I've seen yet.

IMO, it no doubt has alot to do with keeping the races divided to get the Pres. relected.

 

I sincerely hope that all these attempts by these various groups to railroad an individual before he is even charged with a crime will be paid out in some heavy CASH after the law suits are brought.

NBC NEWS,

 

We are sorry for Editing the 1911 call and making Zimmerman look like a Racist..

 

I Am Guessing Zimmerman will have the money to pay his medical Bills..

 

Notice HOW they worded the "Apology"??

"We apologize to our VIEWERS" not a word of an apology publicly at least to Zimmerman.

Notice HOW they worded the "Apology"??

"We apologize to our VIEWERS" not a word of an apology publicly at least to Zimmerman.

 

They don't want to show even the slightest bit of culpability. I'd say that ship has sailed though!

After listening to Z's attorneys on Cnn and then on Fox interviews......Hmmmmm......looks like the additional factual material unreported naturally...that they and the police have regarding this case seem to corroberate the witness's testimony that T became the agressor and Z taking a beating, "Stood His Ground"......the interesting part of this is how the SYGL can shift from one to the other and back again just by the actors behavior toward one another......complicated.

Irrespective of what really happened on the night in question and NBC's limited apology, it appears NBC News has now taken further action based on their inappropriate portrayal of Zimmerman's phone call. Supposedly they have fired the producer responsible for editing the phone call.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/07/nbc-news-reportedly-fires-producer-edited-george-zimmerman-tape/?test=latestnews

 

TheWombat

Irrespective of what really happened on the night in question and NBC's limited apology, it appears NBC News has now taken further action based on their inappropriate portrayal of Zimmerman's phone call. Supposedly they have fired the producer responsible for editing the phone call.

 

http://www.foxnews.c...test=latestnews

 

TheWombat

 

Screw Them, they will just hire another ponzi.. zimmerman needs to sue them..The FCC needs to fine them,