I've been waiting for my FID and 2 permits. I got a call the other day from the detective handling my App and he told me that all my papers were ready and that he would like to come by my house to have me sign the permits and fingerprint my ID card.

 

He asked when would be a good time/day for him to come do this. I said meet me at my house at 5:15, which he was prompt. It took all of a minute.

 

He said that my town likes to make sure that I am who I say I am and live where I say I do. I didn't have an issue with him coming to my home on my terms.

 

How do you all feel about this? I haven't seen anything about the police coming to your home for this

...He said that my town likes to make sure that I am who I say I am and live where I say I do...

 

There's your answer. I do not see a problem with this, although why don't they just have you present a current utility bill.

 

The whole permit process is a waste of time. You can become a prohibited person the day after you are issued a FPID.

I don't know if they still do this because I didn't get a permit in a while, but my town at least used to hand deliver the sign certificates, although in practice most of the time I just found a envelope in my mailbox (with no stamp or postmark). I'm suspected with the increase number of purchases they might not have time for that anymore.

I would love this. I either have to take off work which means I am out even more money just so I can exercise my rights or I have to show up on tuesday after I et off work and hope that someone stayed late, so it sometimes takes 2 or 3 stops on a tuesday nights. This whole process is such a waste of our money (paying for the permits and the tax dollars used to fund this).

In a town I previously lived in the detective asked if he could come to my house and see my collection. He said it was to verify I still had them. I politely told him "Not without a search warrant."

Another thread had brought this up. I'm not a huge fan of this mostly because I will not be around NJ most of the week. I travel for work so if Bayonne decides to do this sort of thing I'll be incredibly restricted about when they would be able to visit.

 

It also seems a little big brother to me but that might be my paranoia.

Yeah James.. that was me in the other post who brought it up.. but I didn't want to hijack IRescue's thread.

I see nothing wrong with having a detective come to see who I am and where I live, if anything this would strengthen the bond between lawful gun owner and the police, who I feel are a partner in the business of securing my safety and that of my family's.

 

What I would not do is allow them to go through my gun safe, although I may show him the safe so he knew I had one and could store my guns properly.

Most have been your Zombie avatar that prompted this. LOL

 

The whole permit process is a waste of time. You can become a prohibited person the day after you are issued a FPID.

 

Wasn't I just ranting about this in your shop Friday?

I see nothing wrong with having a detective come to see who I am and where I live, if anything this would strengthen the bond between lawful gun owner and the police, who I feel are a partner in the business of securing my safety and that of my family's.

 

What I would not do is allow them to go through my gun safe, although I may show him the safe so he knew I had one and could store my guns properly.

 

Agreed Richard ... There was no looking around or aggressive questions, in fact the only questions asked were by me. This was the fifth time I have had contact with the detective since dropping off my application. (6 total....3 in person, 3 phone calls).

 

I feel like I've been lucky so far compared to some of the other towns and horror stories

 

We even turned in my wife's application to him while he was at our house. He proceeded to call back with her case # 10 minutes later.

When I applied for my FID they sent an Officer over to my place to verify that I lived there. 2 second visit - checked my DL and wrote his notes on his paperwork and left. I really didn't have a problem with it other than it could delay things if you have a wonky schedule and keep missing the Officer visit. I was able to give times when I would likely be around.

In a town I previously lived in the detective asked if he could come to my house and see my collection. He said it was to verify I still had them. I politely told him "Not without a search warrant."

 

Good answer.

Towns are having a tough enough problem getting permits out doing what is required by law. The Chief of that town must be a real douche. Surprised someone hasn't challenged that, especially when permits go over the magic "30 day" period. It's one thing if the town is doing what's required and is still backed up. It's quite another when the Chief takes it upon himself to add extra hurdles and further delay an already ridiculous and antiquated process.

In a town I previously lived in the detective asked if he could come to my house and see my collection. He said it was to verify I still had them. I politely told him "Not without a search warrant."

 

I'd give you a +1 if I could.

I'm incredibly surprised that somem of you would let them into your home.

 

Personally I wouldn't have a problem with it.

On one hand it seems a little nervey of them.On the other hand getting printed with a 9 month old on my hip was challenging. If he didn't have bad reflux I would just have handed him to the Sarge.

 

I would not have an issue with the police coming to my house. I like my police department , I know most of them and they are not busters . So my "personal space" guard is down when it comes to stuff like that.

In a town I previously lived in the detective asked if he could come to my house and see my collection. He said it was to verify I still had them. I politely told him "Not without a search warrant."

 

So if you sold 5 or 10 of them and they were not there what then would he do? Arrest you? Just because you are the original owner doesn't mean you still have them. You could have sold them and had an ffl ship them to another state. I never let cops in my house. Period!

You can't renew your driver's license without proof of residence. Your driver's license should be enough to verify your residence. It is one thing to be courteous and drop off the permits. It is quite another to be doing useless checks.

You can't renew your driver's license without proof of residence. Your driver's license should be enough to verify your residence. It is one thing to be courteous and drop off the permits. It is quite another to be doing useless checks.

 

It could be an old residence on your license. My license was issued in 2008. You could be homeless at the moment from a lost apartment, a marital issue, or just plain broke, desperate and looking to score a gun for various illegal activities such as revenge for a lost job, marital issue, robbery, drug business, etc. etc. So a license isn't always proof you still reside there.

You could be homeless at the moment from a lost apartment, a marital issue, or just plain broke, desperate and looking to score a gun for various illegal activities

 

The fatal flaw in your logic is that you are allowed to be broke, homeless, or having a marital issue and still get all your constitutional rights. Or did you think that being in the middle of an ugly divorce meant you weren't allowed to go to the church of your choice?

 

And since when does being broke have anything to do with planning to commit a crime? The purpose of the entire process is not to determine your future purposes of the firearm, but rather to determine your current legality. That's all they should be doing.

 

You are thinking like an anti-gun!

The more I think about this, the more I'm thinking this is done as a form of intimidation. It's no secret that some NJ Chiefs dont believe in ownership of weapons and the more difficult and intimidating they make it, the less likely some will be in seeking handgun permits.

I'd have no issues with the Sgt. who handles my paperwork coming to my house. Sometimes they are on the Rd. and why not have THEM swing buy to drop off your permits. They don't have to come in your house unless weather permits and even still use the garage or something. As for it being mandated.... i don't think so. It just shows they are "investigating" something and not just trying to be convenient. The motive is what bothers me here.

The more I think about this, the more I'm thinking this is done as a form of intimidation. It's no secret that some NJ Chiefs dont believe in ownership of weapons and the more difficult and intimidating they make it, the less likely some will be in seeking handgun permits.

NO ONE is going to turn down permits ready for a signature..lol, not in this state. Maybe if it was clear when applying, but most of the BS with permits is when your done applying....when all the gotchya's rear there ugly heads. Unless of course your running an active meth lab out of your house, in which case i'd probably turn them down...

NO ONE is going to turn down permits ready for a signature..lol, not in this state. Maybe if it was clear when applying, but most of the BS with permits is when your done applying....when all the gotchya's rear there ugly heads.

 

No, but if you know that a cop is going to show up at your doorstep every time you want a permit, some may be less likely to get anymore. I'm lucky Toms River doesn't do any of this crap. They are actually pretty timely getting these things out.

So if you sold 5 or 10 of them and they were not there what then would he do? Arrest you? Just because you are the original owner doesn't mean you still have them. You could have sold them and had an ffl ship them to another state. I never let cops in my house. Period!

 

Thats what I was waiting for

No, but if you know that a cop is going to show up at your doorstep every time you want a permit, some may be less likely to get anymore. I'm lucky Toms River doesn't do any of this crap. They are actually pretty timely getting these things out.

 

I don't think it has anything to do with his permits. Looks like just for his FID

It could be an old residence on your license. My license was issued in 2008. You could be homeless at the moment from a lost apartment, a marital issue, or just plain broke, desperate and looking to score a gun for various illegal activities such as revenge for a lost job, marital issue, robbery, drug business, etc. etc. So a license isn't always proof you still reside there.

 

You're supposed to notify DMV when you move. They can check that as well. Unless they have some reason to think one of the things you suggest, the check is pointless. They've already checked your criminal record and mental health history. If you applied for a pistol purchase permit they've also checked references. Visiting your residence is a waste of everyone's time.

My buddies in the local PD can come over at anytime to do permits. Heck, one of them wants to go shoot some of the stuff I have bought.

I wished my PD delivered. I hate driving there. Waste my time and gas.