First of all, I wasn't referring to the original post. The original post doesn't come close to interfering with a prospective business relationship. I was imparting information to the group as a whole that there are boundaries when it comes to talking ill about a business. Second, you say yourself the OP came for feedback. Well, that's what he got even if it's not up to your discriminating standards.

Seriously??? The guy had a bad experience at a shop, came on here to complain/**** about it and get some feedback. Now we're debating the legality of a)letting someone handle a firearm in a store and b) the legality of the original post.

 

Do y'all have nothing more to worry about?

 

C

 

For those of us with nothing more to worry about... the OP asked if it was common a common practice , and us legality folks chimed in with what we thought the shop may have been doing.... perhaps in their eyes having a PPP in hand was necessary according to the law, albeit, in a hardcore way.

I thank you for the feedback everyone. It was the first time I've experienced this and was just wondering if it was common or a new standard. I understand a business not wanting folks to mistreat their merch and with guns especially the 'break it you bought it' ethic is difficult if not impossible to enfore outside of court.

 

I have been to many stores that asked to see my DL and FID. I had staff politely request I not dry fire, use slide release, or really operate any controls besides hold it. I must respect all of this because it's not my business. While I was a bit disappointed a local business seems to operate this way I don't wish them ill will. As a person in sales who makes their living through sales I understand the concept of "tomorrow dollars" and I can't say I'm inclined to spend mine there.

 

If mods feel it is appropriate please close this.

 

Thanks again.

Thanks for posting the topic. For those of us who have never had your experience, it was an eye-opener. I've never had a dealer ask for a permit to touch their handguns. I especially enjoyed all the replies to your post.

I have a question about the NJ range exemption and the range notifying the NJSP of a list of members..What about range visits in Pa? I understand Pa doesnt need to conform to NJ laws, but what happens to the exemption of the NJ traveler if stopped by PD in NJ on the way to the Pa range? Do Pa ranges notify NJSP of their members? (hard to believe)...so if the Pa range doesn't submit this list does the exemption fail?

Nope. all the PA stores and ranges I have ever gone to treat customers like real human beings. Visited one yesterday and it was chocked full of guns, ammo, reloading supplies and accessories. You could pick up a case of ammo off the floor display, bring it to the counter, pay and be on your way. No walk of shame or plastic boxes. Tons of guns in the display cases and no less than 4 guys behind the counter eager to let you fondle any item you wanted to see. I was like a kid in a candy store!

 

As for jersey dealers, I have only really shopped at 6 that I recall. Rays & Greeleys (in the good old days), Shore Shot, BA (YUCK), TJ's Sporting Arms & Mastadons. I have never been asked to show any credentials at any of these. Perhaps it is because I am an old phart and they figure I must know what I am doing? (what fools they be, har-har).

I have a question about the NJ range exemption and the range notifying the NJSP of a list of members..What about range visits in Pa? I understand Pa doesnt need to conform to NJ laws, but what happens to the exemption of the NJ traveler if stopped by PD in NJ on the way to the Pa range? Do Pa ranges notify NJSP of their members? (hard to believe)...so if the Pa range doesn't submit this list does the exemption fail?

 

No it doesn't fail since you're still covered by the transport exemption which allows you to transport to a range or gun dealer. Note that Pennsy rules apply once you cross the border.

 

The range exemption is utilized when one shooter or competitor lets another use their hand gun at a NJ range that submits its' roster to the Superintendent. Example: I go to my local range and forget my gun, so one of my friends loans me one of his to shoot the Match. This is covered by the Range Exemption. Pennsy laws are enforced only in PA.

 

So are we clear on this now? Just trying to help you.......