I have found it difficult to find a good price on a complete AR, 556/223. I wud love a Colt , 6920. It's extremely difficult to find it NJ ready. I'd I build I wud like to build it with a BCM upper, I don't hunt but want to buy something that can serve just about all purposes. I just loved some of the ones guys posted in the pic forum.

Can anyone share a link that will show price and details. We all need to realize that posting pics is great but the "newbies" need all the details. Thanks for all ur help!!

larue tactical has a new nice ar around 1500.00 has a pencil barrel but it should last about 30,000 plus rounds the predatar

Pencil barrel?? What is that?

I'd really like someone to post links or model numbers, we all want and need the details.

Or are you to tell me to do my own homework.

I have looked at Larue, do they make them so you can get them dirty, muddy, wet and still able to fire?? I just want a plinker which is part of the reason I'm.leaning towards Colt.

There is no such thing as an AR that can serve all purposes... The Ar platform is able to serve all purposes but you will not be able to make a one fits all. Have you been on AR15.com?

 

Do you want just a plinker? or do you want something that will server a purpose?

If you have more specific requirements, I think that would help us all in recommending anything for you. You just want a plinker, but you want one you can get dirty, muddy, wet and still able to fire?

Overall, an AR with decent parts will be an all-around gun for your purposes because you build it for your purposes, it just depends on what you want for aesthetics (looks) and function. Rails? Monolithic Railed Uppers (rail and upper are one block of metal), No rails but polymer handguards?

 

I'd take a look at www.bravocompanyusa.com, www.riflegear.com, www.rainierarms.com, or www.spikestactical.com first for inspiration. They have uppers you can have built out to NJ compliance, with additional fees for pinning the muzzle break/compensator and pinning the stock (some of them do it anyway).

 

Then, contact a local FFL or shop from the NJGF vendors and most of them can spec one out with exactly what you want and get the work done and NJ compliant for you!

Thanks, so if I buy a Colt 6920 or that line ofweapon, that won't serve me as well as it does if I was in the mili I do not want a plinker

What you want to use the gun for will determine the system that will work best for you... What EXACTLY do you want the gun for... Long range? Close range? Precision? Urban combat? Night shooting? What you plan to use it for will determine the gun and options needed... It is actually very simple...

Thanks, so if I buy a Colt 6920 or that line ofweapon, that won't serve me as well as it does if I was in the mili I do not want a plinker

 

I'm not sure what your question is... don't get ahead of yourself. What do you want this rifle to do for you?

I want to have fun at the range, I want it for protection ,,maybe IF the poop ever hits the fan. I want to be able to use it close range and hit a Target at 100-150 yards

Someone had told me in there opinion to look at the colt 6920 or BCM

If you just want an AR to play with, and intend on cleaning it somewhat frequently, I may have a rifle for you. What sort of budget are you working with?

I keep my guns clean but I don't want to go nuts or purchase something that's a pain. No one likes the Colt?

I keep my guns clean but I don't want to go nuts or purchase something that's a pain. No one likes the Colt?

 

The Colt is great, but there are other cheaper options if you don't plan on crawling through mud with it.

Nothing wrong with a colt, and who ever advised BCM is a good friend! You have to figure though, the AR platform is so customizable that your only limited to what you want it to do. Personally i would go with a BCM upper and an RRA 2-stage complete lower. A 16in government profile barrel, and the hand guard options will be up to you. That would make one sweet shooting reliable AR that is decently priced for an all around complete rifle. That's basically as multi purpose as your going to get. Now, with an AR, your looking at barrel size and profile which both effect accuracy, the rest is basically whether it comes from a quality manufacturer. Barrels come in 14.5 16 18 20 and 22" for the most part, you go from 14.5" pencil barrels lightweight and short up to 22" SS Bull barrels that weigh a significant amount more. 16" government profile seems to be what most people go with. Your budget starts to determine a lot of your options. And personally you can find something better by buying an upper and throwing it on a good quality lower.

 

http://www.joebobout...2106&Click=4368

 

http://www.bravocomp...-Group-s/27.htm

brand is only a fraction of the equation..

 

150 yards with an AR is next to nothing...

 

14.5in mid length gas system FTW...

Sounds like you want a Colt. Buy a Colt.

jOn - That's what I'm looking for,, something that COULD be dragged through the mud and still shoot.

I do apologize to everyone for being limited on my replies,, all my posts were from my phone yesterday which is why I was being brief.

 

jackdawack, I beleive the friend who I lost contact with recently suggest Colt and BCM based on their proven reliability.

I imagine a Colt might run me +$1300 maybe more. And then the other option is what you posted by purchasing a upper from BCM and then getting

a quality lower.

 

So if we start with that,, building one with the quality and reliability of a Colt (I do understand that they may not be the "ultimate" and best but I look at it that if it's good for our military and offers that type of reliability one can't go wrong.)

 

I've read sooo much about guys purchasing uppers and lowers and but it's difficult to find out what people are doing with their builds and how they perform. They might tell you they shoot tight groups but then they don't share what it is they have are far as length of the barrel etc..

 

I don't like the solid butt stock, I saw a stock in the pic thread where the guy had a Noveske and another brand and personally I just loved it, the butt stock. Not to say the rest of the gun wasn't impressive as well.

 

If I can build something of quality for $1000 great, but I'm thinking I might have to spend more. Having options while building one will allow me to speand more or less.

 

If I purchase a Colt there's no doubt I'll be spending closer to $1500 not to say that's too too high but if I can build that quality for cheaper.. good for me.

 

Sorry for the rant, maybe I'll PM some of you or others with what they have. And I guess if may serve me well to get to a range and see what you all have.

 

THANKS VERY MUCH.

I've read sooo much about guys purchasing uppers and lowers and but it's difficult to find out what people are doing with their builds and how they perform. They might tell you they shoot tight groups but then they don't share what it is they have are far as length of the barrel etc..

 

 

 

this is my gun... and the groups it has shown me just in sighting in.. one is a 3 shot group.. the other is a 30 round mag... both done from a bench... approximately 75 yards...

 

you should build your own gun.. they are like legos...

 

AR15.com Lower

Magpul MOE + grip

Spike’s ST-T2 Buffer

Magpul CTR Stock

Magpul Pmag

Magpul MOE

Magpul Rail Section

Larue index clips

Troy Rear DOA BUIS

Aimpoint PRO

Haley Thorntail G2 Mount

Surefire G2 light

Magpul ASAP

Magpul MS3

Spikes Tactical Upper 1:7 Twist 5.56 Mid-Length Gas System 14.5in Barrel

Spikes Tactical Dyna Comp Muzzle Brake (Permanently Attached)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vladtepes - Now that's the reply I was looking for.

 

jackdawack - Also great reply.. But what the heck to I pick.

 

Who's going to invite me to their range??? Maybe we can be buddies.. lol hahaha.

 

You all need to understand that I'm a bit of wise arse, and sarcastic. Not missing any bottles from the six pack but also not a rocket scientist. More common sense than brains I alway say. But I'm not a complete idiot!!

 

Again I do appreciate the responses and do apologize for creating another thread that might have just frustrated everyone by not be up front with my intentions.

Sounds like you want a Colt. But you don't have to pay that much. You can get a 6920 for $995 here.

http://dsgarms.com/P...nfo/CO6920.aspx

Unless you want Magpul furniture, in which case it'd be $1055 here.

http://dsgarms.com/P...LE6920MP-B.aspx

You could either have it delivered to one of the vendors on this site and they could do compliance work for you.

Pin/weld muzzle brake, pin stock.

Or you could send it directly to ADCO. I'd run you about $95 for the work. And then he'd ship it to your FFL.

http://www.adcofirea...hop_.cfm?code=5

Your transfer fee would run you about $40. Lincoln Park True Value Hardware does it for $40 (including NICS) and it's right down the street from me.

Total comes out to $1130 plus whatever shipping comes out to be.

 

 

ETA: Hmm... looks like they're out of stock on both.

If you don't mind the lightweight version 6720, $975

http://dsgarms.com/ProductInfo/COAR6720.aspx

Edited June 4, 201214 yr by azmaveth

asmaveth - many thanks, this is the type of info I'm looking for. I'm not sure if what I would like in regards to light weight or NOT.

 

I some how need to get out there and meet some people and pay to try the out.

vladtepes - what did that cost to build??

vladtepes - what did that cost to build??

 

Not sure total cost but I am sure you could do a similar build for the base gun well within your budget...

Where are you located?

Bridgewater

Quick question since I'm starting an AR build myself - are there any additional restrictions I should know about when purchasing a stripped lower? Specifically, does it matter if it's "multi" caliber marked?

 

I'm aware that it has to go through a NJ FFL instead of buying out of state since a stripped lower counts as an "other" rather than a rifle, but aside from that, anything else?

Quick question since I'm starting an AR build myself - are there any additional restrictions I should know about when purchasing a stripped lower? Specifically, does it matter if it's "multi" caliber marked?

 

I'm aware that it has to go through a NJ FFL instead of buying out of state since a stripped lower counts as an "other" rather than a rifle, but aside from that, anything else?

 

 

Meaning what? 556/223. You need to be more specific. LOL not that I know the answer... Look at the links in the signature of vladtepes.. good information there.. read on read on.

Sorry. Does it matter that the stripped lower that I'm buying says "Multi" instead of 5.56/.223, presumably so it can be used with uppers of different calibers? I don't know if/how they register the caliber on stripped lower receivers when they are marked "Multi".

 

http://slickguns.com/product/spikes-tactical-ar15-lower-receiver-7995

Doesn't matter how many calibers it can shoot.... there are plenty of rifles that shoot multi calibers and handguns too. That is not a very good description tho... what calibers are they referring too? def. not .308, probably 9mm and 5.56.

Sorry. Does it matter that the stripped lower that I'm buying says "Multi" instead of 5.56/.223, presumably so it can be used with uppers of different calibers? I don't know if/how they register the caliber on stripped lower receivers when they are marked "Multi".

 

http://slickguns.com...r-receiver-7995

 

I just got this built.

The FFL I transferred this from just wrote MULTI on the paperwork.