He's a FUDD.

 

Speaking of Fudds, I had a friend on facebook who had never spoken up about firearms legislation before suddenly turn into a scholar the other day. He went on and on about how people are fine protecting their homes with bolt action rifles with 3 round capacities, assault rifles are not needed for "hunting," and as soon as I brought up Heller and Mcdonald as a reason for the 2nd Amendment referring to citizens and not an "organized militia" as he put it, he said something along the lines of the supreme court going "against the constitution" and that the 2nd never referred to "ordinary citizens." What is it about killings like this that suddenly makes everyone into an expert on weapons and the constitution?

Why do they insist on banning guns and such? Criminals know they are protected by certain laws. Once they are in police custody they feel safe because they are protected by the law even then. Why don't they make prison more feared than it is. They should be guilty until proven innocent. Not the other way around. I hate to say it but sometime ruling in fear is the best way to go.

 

Yes, great ideas. I wonder if that has ever been tried before, like maybe we should make prisons like Russian Gulag camps and use a 'justice' system like the Gestapo and KGB....

 

I'm also not convinced you even understand how our current justice system works. I don't mean in theory, but in practice. You are already not too far off unfortunately.

 

 

I brought up Heller and Mcdonald as a reason for the 2nd Amendment referring to citizens and not an "organized militia" as he put it, he said something along the lines of the supreme court going "against the constitution" and that the 2nd never referred to "ordinary citizens." What is it about killings like this that suddenly makes everyone into an expert on weapons and the constitution?

Don't even bother debating. You can never win. I see this a lot. One of my favorite quotes usually applies.

"It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument". McAdoo.

 

 

Yes, great ideas. I wonder if that has ever been tried before, like maybe we should make prisons like Russian Gulag camps and use a 'justice' system like the Gestapo and KGB....

 

I'm also not convinced you even understand how our current justice system works. I don't mean in theory, but in practice. You are already not too far off unfortunately.

 

I'm not familiar with how the justice system works at all. Only what I've encountered (which is fighting speeding tickets), and what I've learned in school at a 100 level. I'm not even going to pretend to know. I speak only from what I've observed, and what I've observed it just seems like we are too lenient with criminals giving them every chance to not stand behind their actions. Since I'm not familiar with how our current justice system works maybe I shouldn't say anything so I'll leave it at that.

Look up Black Dolphin. A prison in Russia. If we had prisons like that there would be very few repeat offenders.

Look up Black Dolphin. A prison in Russia. If we had prisons like that there would be very few repeat offenders.

 

There was a show about Russian prisons on a while back and I think that's where they were. Is that the place where like 3 guards and a nasty dog follow each prisoner when they get their 1 hour a day out of the cell?

 

 

There was a show about Russian prisons on a while back and I think that's where they were. Is that the place where like 3 guards and a nasty dog follow each prisoner when they get their 1 hour a day out of the cell?

 

Yep. That's the place. Do you think anyone would risk being sent there again if they did get out?

Look up Black Dolphin. A prison in Russia. If we had prisons like that there would be very few repeat offenders.

 

I watched that documentary, pretty intense shit. They are in their cells 23 hours a day, they get an hour of 'yard' time, in another concrete room where they can't even see the sky, and they are lead there with hoods on and put in stress positions to walk. Certainly no place I would ever want to be.

Speaking of Fudds, I had a friend on facebook who had never spoken up about firearms legislation before suddenly turn into a scholar the other day. He went on and on about how people are fine protecting their homes with bolt action rifles with 3 round capacities, assault rifles are not needed for "hunting," and as soon as I brought up Heller and Mcdonald as a reason for the 2nd Amendment referring to citizens and not an "organized militia" as he put it, he said something along the lines of the supreme court going "against the constitution" and that the 2nd never referred to "ordinary citizens." What is it about killings like this that suddenly makes everyone into an expert on weapons and the constitution?

 

Your friend isn't a Fudd, he's an anti-gun liberal.

Yep. That's the place. Do you think anyone would risk being sent there again if they did get out?

 

Not at all! I think they only got one visitor like every 3 months too.

 

Imagine the gang bangers here in the US if they had to serve time like that. Even a 6 month sentence would potentially drive someone mad!