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7 dead, including gunman, in shooting at Wis. Sikh temple. One of the people injured was a Police Officer who was first on the scene and it looks like he took the SOB gunman down first!

Crazy. Sucks for the gun community with so much bad press lately.

This shit will never go away as long as they keep sensationalizing the CO. Shootings... There are killings, shootings, murders, etc., etc. all the time in the US and they are far from being reported because it's just not big new news. But when something as big as the mass murder occurs, the press makes every other one stand out like sore thumbs. Gonna take a long time for this type of crap to fade away.

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Any word of what his weapon that he used was?

I have a feeling that with all of this crap, we're in for some new gun control laws.

I think we'll be fine... i just feel that the other states will start to copy NJ's laws.. And you'll have to look a detective in the eye and ask for a handgun..

I think we'll be fine... i just feel that the other states will start to copy NJ's laws.. And you'll have to look a detective in the eye and ask for a handgun..

 

Doesn't matter, this crap will help build support for Lautenberg's bs.

hope this doesn't happen in nj, but again if someone is legally carrying (ccw) inside that temple, he or she could have stop the unlawful shooter.

my prayers for the responding officer/officers and the victims that were targeted in the temple.

I don't stay up to date with what religions hate each other. Who hates the guru?

Damn it another NUTCASE

I don't stay up to date with what religions hate each other. Who hates the guru?

 

You could say that Sikhs don't get along with Hindus nor Muslims, but I think that is more a problem in India/Pakistan. You don't hear much about Sikh on Hindu violence or (vice versa) here.

This shit will never go away as long as they keep sensationalizing the CO. Shootings... There are killings, shootings, murders, etc., etc. all the time in the US and they are far from being reported because it's just not big new news. But when something as big as the mass murder occurs, the press makes every other one stand out like sore thumbs. Gonna take a long time for this type of crap to fade away.

Blah!!!

 

 

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It's sensational news. Dressing up like the joker and opening fire with an AR15 in a crowded movie theater is news that gets reported.

man, My prayers go out to the families who are effected by this, I have a feeling shit is about to get worse for law abiding guns owners.

The Politicians should encourage Legal, Responsible, Carry --- With very high shooting/safty qualifications....Said person could have taken the nut out.

 

Cops get there after people die unfortunatly...

 

The More sane, highly qualified, legal gun carriers - the safer we may be....

 

Sounds counter-intuitive - but it is the way to go...Kind of like a cummunity watch...Or volunteer Fire Dept anaology...Cops can't be in many places at once.

 

-Joe

The Politicians should encourage Legal, Responsible, Carry --- With very high shooting/safty qualifications....Said person could have taken the nut out.

 

My sympathy to the affected families.

 

Joe,

 

You do not want to give fodder to the politicians. You do not attach any restrictions to our rights, not even to gain them back. Current legal carriers already have a higher hit ratio than the police. My favorite statistic is with the NYPD. I believe that it was in 2009 - Bloomberg's "highly trained" PD enjoyed a hit ratio only 23%. That same year in civilian (legal carriers) involved shootings, the hit ratio was 68% - almost three times that of the vaunted NYPD.

 

The police are like any other eclectic sampling of the population. A certain (small) percentage of them are going to be firearms enthusiasts who enjoy shooting and will gain the most from the training. To the remainder, the gun is just a tool - may as well be a hammer hanging from a carpenter's belt. However, unlike that hammer, a policeman has little opportunity to use that gun to get better with it - unless he is one of the minority enthusiasts and pursues it on their own.

 

Civilian carriers are pretty much all firearms enthusiasts and take the responsibility of legal carry very seriously, putting in many hours at the range or in competition to become proficient.

 

You do not want a know-nothing politician dictating to you what they consider to be "qualified" with a firearm.

 

I apologize for the threadjack, but it's important that there be no compromise - that's what got us where we are now.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

You are right! But it needs to diminish... Still doesn't account for the fact that there is gun violence everyday in the country. It's ok to feel bad or hate the bastard that did it. I would have been happy to see that jackwagon get gunned down if nothing else, to save tax payer dollars. No trial needed.

 

As for news that gets reported, the news is just that. But when they constantly retell it over and over emphasizing key points, it's no longer news. It's moral brain washing. It's sensationalizing, bolstering, rubbing it in the faces of everyone that may own a gun to make us feel bad, or to help give reason for the idiot politicians to get as much ammo as they need to fight their cause and take away our rights. I'm sick of journalism and the way it manipulates and gets manipulated.

 

Ever notice when there is no news that all of a sudden 2 inches of snow that melts several hours later was the worst storm of he century? You'll hear about it non stop till something more important comes along. The time journalism wastes bsing everyone, they could do real investigative reporting like years ago and at least get a good portion of the news correct. Not to just get everyone to jump on the preverbal band wagon.

 

 

It's sensational news. Dressing up like the joker and opening fire with an AR15 in a crowded movie theater is news that gets reported.

 

 

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The Politicians should encourage Legal, Responsible, Carry --- With very high shooting/safty qualifications....Said person could have taken the nut out.

 

Cops get there after people die unfortunatly...

 

The More sane, highly qualified, legal gun carriers - the safer we may be....

 

Sounds counter-intuitive - but it is the way to go...Kind of like a cummunity watch...Or volunteer Fire Dept anaology...Cops can't be in many places at once.

 

-Joe

 

Unfortunately, your wrong on two counts. It's a right, not a privilege first off. And second, "high training"? Cops don't go through it, so why should I?

Pizza Bob, Thanks for the Stats --- and you make a good point about giving the Poloticians farder....

 

I was thinking a Legar Carry Person should meet the police standars --- didn't realize the average cop was below the average sports-shooter till you posted the data...Ironically, this makes an even greater argument for politicians to encourage qualified armed civilians -- but of course they never will.

 

-Joe

Pizza Bob, Thanks for the Stats --- and you make a good point about giving the Poloticians farder....

 

I was thinking a Legar Carry Person should meet the police standars --- didn't realize the average cop was below the average sports-shooter till you posted the data...Ironically, this makes an even greater argument for politicians to encourage qualified armed civilians -- but of course they never will.

 

-Joe

 

I'm gonna get a bunch of flack for this, but I've shot with enough cops and have witnessed them shooting that their skill level is no where near the average shooter on this forum.

NJZEd,

 

For me I want both Cops and Legal Carriers to be highly trained --- Until Pizza Bob posted -- didn't realize the Cops were not - yikes!

 

-Joe

NJZEd,

 

For me I want both Cops and Legal Carriers to be highly trained --- Until Pizza Bob posted -- didn't realize the Cops were not - yikes!

 

-Joe

 

Required? No Suggested? Yes

Training takes a back seat to budgets. Training costs money so we don't get nearly as much as we want or need. I at least take my own time to get better with my weapon.

BTW- I'm predicting it now, within the next week Obama will call for stricter gun control measures, and anything Lautenberg suggests will garner some momentum. We may even see some new laws actually passed.

Training takes a back seat to budgets. Training costs money so we don't get nearly as much as we want or need. I at least take my own time to get better with my weapon.

 

Well you are a "Gun Nut" so you don't count.

Some police enjoy the sport and are probably very proficient. Unfortunately others shoot just enough to qualify at minimum and that's it.

This looks more like it will take the "hate crime" route and the media will make that the story rather than a gun control angle. Local pd labeled it as domestic terrorism.

 

Probably some dumb redneck who though they were Muslims.

I notice how much quicker Obama is to comment when the victims are non white. They are still victims but it is very apparent that Obama makes a distinction.

CNN and Reuters are reporting that the shooting is being trated as domestic terrorism, that the shooter was a 40 year old heavy set white male local to the area and that two semi-automatic pistols were found that were believed to belong to the shooter.

I notice how much quicker Obama is to comment when the victims are non white. They are still victims but it is very apparent that Obama makes a distinction.

 

I don't believe he issued a comment?

 

Edit. Just read CNN report that he did. Never mind.

CNN and Reuters are reporting that the shooting is being trated as domestic terrorism, that the shooter was a 40 year old heavy set white male local to the area and that two semi-automatic pistols were found that were believed to belong to the shooter.

CBS says that the shooter was armed with a 9mm semi-automatic pistol, the second pistol found belonged to one of the officers.