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NJGF Car Thread

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I'll bet the guys at Monster Miata would tend to disagree. :spiteful:

 

Pretty much how a guy named Shelby shoe-horned a Ford V8 on 2-seat roadster in the 60's. ;)

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I mean do what you want... But a stock ls1 is 350hp at the flywheel and a stock NA 1.8 can do 280whp on 12lbs... and thats saving a couple hundred lbs and a crapton of money. Building a 1.8 is relatively cheap and easy and with a decent rotating assembly 400+whp is possible on pump gas and even more on e85.

 

It just seems like a lot of work for nothing with a v8 swap... i mean I guess if you're looking for 5-600hp then an lsx would be in the cards but then its going to either be set up for the strip and handle terribly...or set up for handling and be able to smoke the rears from 90mph.

 

Thats just my opinion anyway...

I like this package from Mallett for the Solstice. It's all pointless but fun!

 

Turbocharged LS7 Package

  • Everything in the Loaded Package PLUS:
  • 900HP Turbocharged LS7 Engine
  • Dry Sump Oil System
  • 6-speed Tremec Transmission
  • 3.73 Differential
  • Custom Built Drive Shaft
  • Custom Built Half Shafts
  • 750HP Rear Wheel

Daily - 94 Olds Bravada, power everything, leather, picked it up for $500

 

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My other toys, 67 Chevelle and a 73 Chevelle

 

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Test fitting the new wheels (now just need to afford tires, lol)

 

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My EDD - 2009 G8-GT

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Just for fun - 1990 Corvette Z51 (back on the road after 3+ years - different wheels on it currently)

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Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

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Nice '67!

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I know plenty of people with both v8s and turboed Miatas needless to say the turbos don't keep up and the cash to make them keep up you might as well have an ls1.

 

Personally I would turbo mine but I'm not looking fit more than 250whp which in a Miata should still rub low 12s and high 11s. My friend has a mostly stock ls1 in his and runs 10.5 all day with some exhaust work and a tune

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I mean do what you want... But a stock ls1 is 350hp at the flywheel and a stock NA 1.8 can do 280whp on 12lbs... and thats saving a couple hundred lbs and a crapton of money. Building a 1.8 is relatively cheap and easy and with a decent rotating assembly 400+whp is possible on pump gas and even more on e85.

 

It just seems like a lot of work for nothing with a v8 swap... i mean I guess if you're looking for 5-600hp then an lsx would be in the cards but then its going to either be set up for the strip and handle terribly...or set up for handling and be able to smoke the rears from 90mph.

 

Thats just my opinion anyway...

 

A proper v8 swap won't ruin the handling with all the added stuff it's only a couple hundred extra pounds and the weight distribution is still almost 50/50 if you run the beefier rear end

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i do my own detaling

 

 

 

Nice hood ornament indeed.

 

 

Where are these pics taken? That building looks so familiar.

Bah humbug to all of these GM's and Miatas.

 

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That's how my dream car looks like...

 

Unfortunately, for now I'm stuck with Infinity G37 MT6 sedan (yes, that's the 6 speed, 330 hp RWD sedan)

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That's how my dream car looks like...

 

Unfortunately, for now I'm stuck with Infinity G37 MT6 sedan (yes, that's the 6 speed, 330 hp RWD sedan)

I have one to, awesome car :good:

Bah humbug to all of these GM's and Miatas.

 

Fair enough, All Ford.

 

'50 Merc flathead, '80 Ford AOD trans, & '80 Lincoln Versailles 9-inch disc-brake rear.

 

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I miss my fun car days... Had a '94 Impala SS that I should've never gotten rid of. Also fun were the '87 Monte Carlo SS, the '87 Thunderbird TC, and the '01 Bullitt. :crying:

That one should have been a keeper!!!

 

I know, but being unemployed has a way of re-prioritizing your life for you...

Ah, oh yeah. That will do it...

 

MY 2001 Cobra. Just a hair over 25K miles on it. Delivered 9/10/01.

 

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Had a little photoshoot with my buddies cobra today. Pics taken on my iPhone ;)

 

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I mean do what you want... But a stock ls1 is 350hp at the flywheel and a stock NA 1.8 can do 280whp on 12lbs... and thats saving a couple hundred lbs and a crapton of money. Building a 1.8 is relatively cheap and easy and with a decent rotating assembly 400+whp is possible on pump gas and even more on e85.

 

It just seems like a lot of work for nothing with a v8 swap... i mean I guess if you're looking for 5-600hp then an lsx would be in the cards but then its going to either be set up for the strip and handle terribly...or set up for handling and be able to smoke the rears from 90mph.

 

how can a stock Naturally Aspirated engine run 12lbs? and for making power, you dont HAVE to build an LS....they already have power. which means less expensive, and infinitely more reliable. any LS, stock to full bolt ons, can easily make 300K miles with normal maintenance. there is no way in hell youll ever get 300K miles out of a turbo'd miata.

 

every turbo car ive seen at autoxs or the track has had problems. tuning, leaking oil, losing boost, there are dozens of things that can go wrong. yet all of us with mildly worked V8s run all day, every day, and never have to worry about breaking every single event.

 

and as far as making power......have you heard of torque? horsepower sells cars. torque wins races. my TA made 370lbs at the wheels, most of which under 4K rpms. adding a turbo to a 4cyl creates lag and a narrow power band. an LS makes usable power from idle to redline

how can a stock Naturally Aspirated engine run 12lbs? and for making power, you dont HAVE to build an LS....they already have power. which means less expensive, and infinitely more reliable. any LS, stock to full bolt ons, can easily make 300K miles with normal maintenance. there is no way in hell youll ever get 300K miles out of a turbo'd miata.

 

every turbo car ive seen at autoxs or the track has had problems. tuning, leaking oil, losing boost, there are dozens of things that can go wrong. yet all of us with mildly worked V8s run all day, every day, and never have to worry about breaking every single event.

 

and as far as making power......have you heard of torque? horsepower sells cars. torque wins races. my TA made 370lbs at the wheels, most of which under 4K rpms. adding a turbo to a 4cyl creates lag and a narrow power band. an LS makes usable power from idle to redline

 

NA Is the term for a first gen miata which includes 90-93 1.6L models and 94-97 1.8L models. NB is 98-04 NC is 05+

 

Thats cars you've seen having problems were most likely half assed. Kids with little money who piece together turbo kits and buy used turbo's and install without rebuilding them. Now its true that a otherwise stock boosted miata would more then likely have more issues then a stock LSX..however when you're talking about a swap in a miata its not just the motor you're replacing the entire drivetrain with parts never originally intended for use in that car and a chassis that was never designed to handle the weight or torque of that setup. The likelyhood of problem arising in a v8 swap miata in my humble opinion or just as likely if not more then a stock motor car running toward the limit.

 

As far as useable rpm range an ls and boosted miata motor are similar, ls1's in a stock configuration are not very useful below 3000rpm (which is why people who drag them generally start at 3k converters and up but for argument sake lets say they start making good power at 2500. A 1.8 miata motor with stock intake mani, top and bottom ends on a 46mm garret charger will be on boost by 3500rpm (generally sooner in reality but im giving the benefit of the doubt).

 

so on an ls1 with a stock top end you're all done making powe at 6200rpm. Some quick math will yeild that an ls1 has approx useable rpm window of 3700rpm. Now a 1.8L miata motor will be making good power from 3500 to 7100rpm...little more math and you get yourself a 3600rpm window.

 

Also remember those mazda motors are very strong for their size... not that many cars can handle 155hp per litre on a stock rotating assembley and top end.

 

And trust me I know very well of torque and experiance it in quadruple digit numbers regularly.

Had a little photoshoot with my buddies cobra today. Pics taken on my iPhone ;)

 

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I took my hood off once ;) haha

 

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Just for giggles... but getting that 150lbs off the front axle dropped me 1.3 tenths...

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