Great experience, this is the second range I've been to, first was RTSP.

I have no complaints! It's my second gun related trip to the BH and again a great experience. First time I was just looking at guns, while researching to buy my first. That time they treated me well and answered all my questions and offered advice.

This time I went to shoot and again had great service and enjoyed myself. The guy behind the counter was polite and helpful and the RO just told me that the gun has to be in its case until you get to the port. Everyone did their job well and I was actually very happy that it was nice and cool in there. Yes RTSP is big and new and all but it was roughly 345786 degrees in the range, oh yeah and it's an hour away...the BH is about a 5 minute drive.

Really hope others have good experiences there, I know the place is small and the range isn't the most modern but for me (a new gun owner), it was everything I wished for haha.

RxB

Glad to hear you had a good time, some people have problems with the BH. But I enjoy it there, it's never hot inside and if you go at the right time it's not to crowded.

Awesome. What time were you at bullet hole today? Might have seen me I was the guy with a S&W MP15-22 in port 2 between 3:45 and about 4:30

Never had a bad experience at the BH. Was there this Thursday at around 5 :30 and there were only two people there. The RO asked me to pick the port I wanted and shot for an hour without any issues.

Awesome. What time were you at bullet hole today? Might have seen me I was the guy with a S&W MP15-22 in port 2 between 3:45 and about 4:30

i was there before you in port 2 around noon, im happy with the place and will be shooting there from now on, wish they had memberships

I've been there about 8 times since I purchased my gun. Always a good experience. Sure the place is a little small and dingy, but i have always been treated well, and the prices are decent. Ammo prices on site aren't too bad either. $13.99 for a box of 9mm isn't too bad. Considering RTSP sells that for $26 to non members. they also don;t charge you extra if you are sharing the port with someone

 

I went to RTSP when I was researching what gun to buy, and it left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I wanted to rent a Glock 17. I brought a friend with me, so they charged me $30 to rent a port for an hour, $10 to rent the gun, $52 for 2 boxes of 9mm. It ended up costing me over $100 after tax just to try out a gun. Also, the lack of climate control made the place extremely hot. The positives were, the electronic ports were nice, the waiting area is a plus, and the staff for the most part was very friendly. the bad taste came from the cost of everything. I understand that it's probably very expensive to run a range, but $26 for a box of 9mm ammo???

 

 

 

I'll stick to BH and I also look forward to Lucianos Range opening in Woodland Park.

$26 a box of 9mm? Wow. I can't imagine what .45 is hahaha

RTSP is a complete rip off unless you're a member, which is somewhere around 400 a year for non LEO. I can't stand that place. And if you dare complain, they tell you "Go open your own range then". It's a bull#$it attitude. My money will not be spent there again.

 

Like JohnP said, BH is fine for what it is and is quite nice if you are able to time it right. Congrats on a purchase.

 

C

Never an issue for me at BH, I was bought 2 rifles and used their ports. Always treated fairly and prices are good. RTSP is expensive.

RTSP is a complete rip off unless you're a member, which is somewhere around 400 a year for non LEO. I can't stand that place. And if you dare complain, they tell you "Go open your own range then". It's a bull#$it attitude. My money will not be spent there again.

 

Like JohnP said, BH is fine for what it is and is quite nice if you are able to time it right. Congrats on a purchase.

 

C

 

I've been meaning to check out RTSP but all this talk I hear about their pricing has kept me away.

Before buying my handgun, I went to RSTP to try it out because they have it as a rental, the whole experience cost me about $60 to shoot a .22 for an hour with 100 rounds, I thought it was a bit expensive but it was my first time at an actual shooting range. I still think the place is really nice looking and modern but renting was definitely expensive and the price for the gun I was looking for was the highest compared to all of the places I looked. I would go back and shoot there but only with my gun, my ammo, my targets and also only if they somehow figured out the problem with the temperature...The BH is not as nice to look at but I definitely would rather shoot there both because it's much closer to me and not as expensive.

I was there this past saturday shooting my wasr-10, and i didnt have any problems at all. Place is small but does the job

Before buying my handgun, I went to RSTP to try it out because they have it as a rental, the whole experience cost me about $60 to shoot a .22 for an hour with 100 rounds, I thought it was a bit expensive but it was my first time at an actual shooting range. I still think the place is really nice looking and modern but renting was definitely expensive and the price for the gun I was looking for was the highest compared to all of the places I looked. I would go back and shoot there but only with my gun, my ammo, my targets and also only if they somehow figured out the problem with the temperature...The BH is not as nice to look at but I definitely would rather shoot there both because it's much closer to me and not as expensive.

 

Also, at RTSP you have to pay for additional people to share a port with you. Bullet hole charges a flat price whether its one person or multiple sharing a port.

Also, at RTSP you have to pay for additional people to share a port with you. Bullet hole charges a flat price whether its one person or multiple sharing a port.

I've been planning on bringing someone and wasn't sure how much extra it would be, that's amazing that they don't charge, I mean it makes sense that they don't, that would just be very greedy...but great to know...might become my home range afterall

would go back and shoot there but only with my gun, my ammo, my targets and also only if they somehow figured out the problem with the temperature...The BH is not as nice to look at but I definitely would rather shoot there both because it's much closer to me and not as expensive.

 

This is what I've been doing. I bring my own everything and only pay for the port. No way I'm paying over $25 for a box of 40 cal when the BH has them for for $16. The last time I was at RTSP the target mech was broken and I spent about 20 minutes of the hour messing with it. That experience left a pretty bad taste in my mouth. The BH is awesome when you during off hours.

It appears that the blush is off the rose for RTSP.........

I've been planning on bringing someone and wasn't sure how much extra it would be, that's amazing that they don't charge, I mean it makes sense that they don't, that would just be very greedy...but great to know...might become my home range afterall

 

RTSP charges less for the second person, say it's like $20 for the hour for 1 person, it's an additional $10 for the second (total $30). An hour at BH is about $15 whether it's just me or me and 1 or 2 friends. If you're going to bring a friend I recommend going off hours if you can, weekdays from opening until around 4-5pm are usually pretty dead. That way you will have more room since BH is a small range.

If you're going to bring a friend I recommend going off hours if you can, weekdays from opening until around 4-5pm are usually pretty dead. That way you will have more room since BH is a small range.

Yeah, my buddy and I both have off on Fridays during the day, so probably around 11am is when we intend to go, just happy that it's so close and cheap. Do they rent eyes and ears there? I only have one set and he's obviously going to need it.

Run threw Harbor Freight for a cheap pair eyes and ears. Only costs about 5 or 6 bucks.

Never been before but want to check it out tonight at 6ish

It appears that the blush is off the rose for RTSP.........

 

Not for me it isn't.

 

I agree with the gripes about ammo prices, they're very high. But if you're not renting and you bring your own ammo/targets it's very reasonable. In fact, last time I was there I took a day off work mid-week and went around 3:30, paid for an hour of range time and didn't leave until about 5:45, mainly because I was out of ammo. No one called time on me and no one came looking for more money from me. I'm sure that wouldn't have happened if the range was full and people were waiting, but I also bet that would have never happened at the bullet hole.

 

Regarding the hot temps inside the range when it is hot outside: My belief is that RTSP has a *VERY* effective ventilation system that moves a huge amount of air, so yeah, the indoor range temps will tend to be close to the ambient outside air temperature. I'd rather deal with heat/cold than the black gunk that I've blown out of my nose after some Bullet Hole sessions.

My belief is that RTSP has a *VERY* effective ventilation system that moves a huge amount of air, so yeah, the indoor range temps will tend to be close to the ambient outside air temperature.

 

It doesn't have to be hot. There are very effective heat recovery units available. Actually, if RTSP is interested, I would be interested in coming by and talking to them about heat recovery and ways to save energy...

Last I checked at RTSP if you're renting a gun, you HAVE to buy their ammo. Guy said they can't risk damaging their guns with foreign ammo or reloaded stuff.

See, this is nuts. I remember when ShoreShot tried charging $26 or $30 for a box of 9mm, and less flack for RTSP. Drez, I am really tempted to know when they showed the attitude, first I am hearing about it. In reality... "open your own range" should seldom be a response to any potential customer.

 

Props to Bullet Hole for adjusting their sales prices and practices. $13 for a box of 9mm is VERY reasonable, especially for someone who rents ammo. If they are buying from a dealer/distributor, there is still plenty of profit in ammo.

 

Buying ammo for $8 or even $10 a box, and selling it for $26, on top of charging $30 for an hour for a port, plus for the rental.... is a bit overkill in my book.

 

Can they? Absolutely, but people do not forget things like that. Look at BA. There are only so many "new shooters" you can screw over charge as much as you want, eventually, those that become gun owners, will look elsewhere.

 

Prime example, guys like Paul (pk90) and Tony have stellar reputation is because they do not consider themselves better than the gun community, and consider themselves part of it. Mastodon, Bulls Eye Tactical are on their way there. Totally awesome to see Nick and Chris show up to matches and shoots, and be one of the guys, and thoroughly try to help you. At every step, they always ask, what can we do to be better.

I do agree RTSP is a larger and cleaner range but the prices are just not reasonable. I remember a shooter who wanted to rent a pistol to try it out and had the same ammo they sell for his own gun and they still made him buy a box. I hate when they say rentals are $10 but its deceiving. Its $10 plus ammo. What is one to do with a gun without bullets at a range. BH allows for half hour port rentals at half the price. Sometimes one just wants to get away a bit but not pay an hour for the 20 min they may use. I hope Luciano's takes into consideration these threads before establishing their prices.

I had my first BH experience last night. I had an out of state friend who has never shot handguns and wanted to try so i needed to find a range since i am no longer a member at cherry ridge. BH staff was courteous enough there was an older gentleman RSO who was a little vacant and cold but other than that it was an overall good experience. although I could not stand straight up in the port there was enough range to host plenty of shooters and the price is great. I would go again.

I can't believe that RTSP has as many members as they do. Sure the range is really nice but their prices are insane. Everyone complains about the ammo prices but I think their membership rates are overpriced as well. Unlesss you get to go to the range a couple times a month its cheaper to pay as you go. I hope that Luciano's keeps their membership prices reasonable but I have the feeling they are going to be in line with RTSP but hopefully I am wrong.

I can't believe that RTSP has as many members as they do. Sure the range is really nice but their prices are insane. Everyone complains about the ammo prices but I think their membership rates are overpriced as well. Unlesss you get to go to the range a couple times a month its cheaper to pay as you go. I hope that Luciano's keeps their membership prices reasonable but I have the feeling they are going to be in line with RTSP but hopefully I am wrong.

 

Overpriced is all relative. To someone who lives within 20 mins, the savings in gas alone will make up the difference. The good news is, more and more ranges opening up!

Overpriced is all relative. To someone who lives within 20 mins, the savings in gas alone will make up the difference. The good news is, more and more ranges opening up!

 

I respectfully disagree. Overpriced is overpriced.

 

It wasn't Drez that commented about RTSP saying "Open your own range", it was me. And actually, the very same attitude was displayed by them when someone mentioned being offended by the Hebrew Scroll on the front door (sorry, I don't know the name of it). It was, "It's our range, we will do as we choose, if you don't like it spend 2 million of your own money and open one yourself". Paraphrasing, but you get the drift. I believe that was a printed response, btw. And yes, it's great that other ranges are opening up, however I hope they are listening to and reading these threads as eventually folks will get fed up. They don't need to just open, they need to stay open.

 

C

I haven't been to the bullet hole since GFH training.. When are they quietest on the weekends? Is showing up at opening a good strategy?

 

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